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While similar in concept, Waterless is a RTU product and can be used on lightly dusty vehicles whereas Hoseless requires dilution and is a substitute for the traditional bucket wash. No hose is needed to rinse the vehicle at any point in the process. Thus it is called Hoseless.

This might blow your mind, but Hoseless can also be diluted to be used as a Waterless Wash.

I hope I’m not breaking any rules but I did a CS3 review and giveaway on the YouTOOBs and thus far it hasn’t really gotten too much response. So I thought the Adams Forum members might be a good audience for such a video. If I’m breaking a rule by all means remove my post or do whatever is necessary. If not, the link is below. This is strictly a review and giveaway for CS3. I LOVE the product as I’m sure many of you do as well. Hope this is okay. And for anyone interested, to save you time, all I’m asking folks to do is comment and subscribe to enter. But if you want to watch the video I’d love to hear what you think as a like minded Adams supporter!!!

Do you have pics? Have you tried using a pressure washer with a wide fan? Even going to the spray and wash and use the wand there? You might give that a shot.

Not trying to be a jerk, but you do realize like many things there have been supply issues going on right? I’m certain Adams isn’t trying to offer lower quality sprayers on purpose. It’s likely a supply related issue and Adams is basically only able to offer what they can source. Have patience and try to understand. Temper your expectations here and there. It helps.

On 7/6/2021 at 7:10 AM, Mantis said:

CS3 is a versatile product that in my opinion is Adams' best work. I have used it as a waterless wash which is what it was actually designed for but also have used it as a drying aid and detail spray.

 When I'm using it as a Waterless wash, the Waffle towels are great. Probably the best way to use CS3 is with these towels and this job.

Now when I'm using it as a detail spray, I like a more plush towel towel like the borderless Gray Plush towels.

 

 When using as a drying aid , I use the Jumbo Plush drying towel. It works extremely well and leaves the car so nicely smooth. It works so well as a drying agent.

 

Before Graphene Detail spray, I used CS3 for all these uses. Now it's really back to just being a Waterless wash product and I use Graphene Detail spray for a drying aid and detail spray. 

I agree CS3 is a great product in a line up that has many great standouts. I’ve been impressed with it for a couple areas that aren’t really commonly thought of and that is engine bay and door jambs. It seems to excel at bringing that wow factor or pop to both. I used it as a drying aid as well and I agree it’s great at that too and the slickness is serious. I have even used it on weathertech mats and exterior plastics to give them some dark luster and it seems to work well there too. It’s similar to Detail Spray and even Rinseless for me where I find a ton of uses for them.

@falcaineerI spoke to him on the phone sir. Thanks Mr. Chris sir!

I just want to throw some Kudos out at Christian in Adams Support. Dude was super helpful, knowledgeable and just all around great to deal with. It never ceases to amaze me how nice the folks are at Adams and how well they treat the customer. It’s why they are such a great company to buy from. The best part is the customer service. I’ve never had experiences like I have with Adams with ANY other company I have traded with. Chic Fil A is the only thing that comes close. This is probably the third or fourth time I am bragging on someone at Adams. It won’t be the last. Christian if you are out there on the Forum, THANKS FOR YOUR TIME AND EFFORT TODAY!!! YOU ROCK BRO!!!!!

Andrew if I were you I would pretreat the spots in the shade with a mix of rinseless and water or soap and water dilution then do a strip wash with APC. You could try vinegar and water as well If that doesn’t knock the spots out, try claying them. If clay doesn’t get you there then I would try using some polish by hand lightly in one spot to see how it behaves. If all that fails you might need to break out a polisher. It will definitely diminish the coating to a degree, but one pass might get rid of the spots and allow the coating to remain. I don’t have much experience doing that so I might let others chime in.

So once the coating bottle has been opened it’s only good for thirty days? I’d never heard that before but if that’s true I’m going to need to use mine this week.

Thanks Chris. I’ve been shaking the bottle up for sure. I still think I’ve been waiting too long because in one section it seems like it was 3 minutes before the rainbow effect was totally gone. I am going to try and time my next round to be sure. And I realize it does vary based on the factors you mentioned. Thanks again for the info.

1 hour ago, falcaineer said:

Hard to tell. Did you try BG? A little Polish on a borderless grey towel by hand might work, too.

Yes I think Glaze knocked it out in the places where it was more stubborn. I was just curious if I’m doing something wrong in the process mainly with regard to the time I am waiting before removing it. I was thinking I’d read or seen where you typically wait for the rainbow to diminish. Regardless I guess I can try removing it quicker, like in the first minute. Still have more sections to work on. So far, I’ve only done the hood and the trunk. Figured those panels take a pretty good amount of abuse so I wanted to get them first.

Guys I noticed some really small specs that appear to be white in color almost like the liquid hardened into small dots. Has anyone seen this before? In some places they come off with the suede towel or microfiber towel but in some places they are pretty stubborn. Could that mean I let it flash too long? I probably waited two minutes before wiping the coating off. It was basically once the rainbow effect had dissipated.

1 hour ago, falcaineer said:

 

Correct, the solvent helps to level the high spots. But depending on how long it's been on, as you said 14+ hours, you may need to step up or try something else as I outlined above.

Thanks, I tried the glaze and I think it knocked them down pretty well. Question, what steps would you take if thinking of layering an additional coat past the 24 hour mark? Is it as simple as doing a coating prep step then applying?

So does Brilliant Glaze level it and then there’s no need to reapply the coating? I’m asking because I did an application yesterday and I have some high spots where it didn’t fully level out. I have Brilliant Glaze, Graphene Spray Coating, and Graphene Detail spray. Was curious if trying one of the sprays would be a better first option than using glaze. I applied the coating a little over 14 hours ago. Was thinking about doing a quick Waterless wash on the section and then trying the recommended steps.

7 minutes ago, falcaineer said:

 

Be very careful polishing PPF, it can degrade the adhesive since it builds up heat. If you do, do one light, quick pass and Polish is perfect. If it's in good shape, I say skip it, just do the other prep your outlined above. Polishing before coating isn't "required", even on paint, but it generally helps give the best results.

Thanks Chris!!!

Hey guys, probably another silly question, but as I prepare to coat the hood on my vehicle, I think I’d like to check my process with you all. First off, the car has Expel Ultimate PPF installed. It was done back in Feb. and the car is garage kept.

Because the PPF has no defects, my intent is to strip wash the hood and clay it then do coating prep prior to applying the Graphene Ceramic Coating. However, I have seen some posts or reviews recently stating the surface needs to be machine polished for the coating to work properly. Being the PPF doesn’t have swirls etc, I’m a little hesitant to break out the polisher. Can you guys set me straight on this? If I need to polish it I can, but just figured it wouldn’t be necessary. I guess I’m looking at polishing from the aspect of doing it to get the surface aesthetically pleasing, which it already is. But maybe the minuscule leveling effect makes the coating bond better? If so, I guess I’ll just do a one step with finishing polish and white pads. Please educate me guys! Thanks 🙏 

Thanks Dan!

3 hours ago, Rich said:

No such thing  as silly questions on here.  Post up pics after you're done so we can see your ride!  

Will do sir!

Thanks Rich and Chris. I feel silly even asking the question, but I’ve never used the Graphene coating and I didn’t see shaking it called out in the instructions. So really just wanting to make sure and also know it’s a normal thing to see the dark particles in the bottom versus a uniform look. Thanks again fellas!

Adams Team,

       I just received a 60 ml bottle of the Graphene Coating. I noticed what seemed to be some solidified Graphene at the bottom of the bottle. It’s a black seemingly solidified portion of the chemical. I’m curious if that’s indeed what I’m seeing and if it’s essential to shake the coating prior to application. Maybe it’s the UV component I’m seeing?

So does this only apply to the Graphene version of coating and spray coating? Would you need to wipe standard ceramic spray coating after application on plastic?

Yeah that and the Invisible Undercarriage Spray get my vote. While we are on the topic, of ideas, any thought for a ceramic based glaze? I know that would be an entirely new product. Maybe Ceramic Boost sort of fills that purpose. But those of us who have been along for the ride with Adams for a while, the glaze has always been The Bomb. But it doesn’t play well with ceramic to my knowledge.

Team Adams,

       I think you guys have definitely stepped up your game on the scents for odor control. I loved that you guys offered some variety packs. Really love getting those. One thing I was thinking though, there are really three scents that stand out to me across the Adams line I’d love to see in an ON or interior detailer or even air freshener. They are Grape, Margarita (like the OG version glass cleaner), and Detail spray. I know you guys do offer Detail Spray in the air freshener form and I can always shoot a few sprays of DS into the floor mat or under the seat. So maybe DS is the least of the three I would like to see because there are some options. But Grape or Margarita would be AWESOME! Anyway, just wanted to provide some input or feedback. Keep up the good work!

Really cool! Definitely a buy to add on my next order:)

25 minutes ago, Dan@Adams said:

Yes this can be a common thing with modern GM truck/suv interior panels. They seem to have a top layer material that can wear off. Usually I will see stains from rain water streaking, sweat, grease, etc, that once you start to remove the discoloration, it will then begin to remove that top layer 'coating.' So you will then need to clean the whole panel thoroughly to make a uniform appearance. Then I will follow up with Interior Detailer, Leather Conditioner, or Leather & Interior Dressing for protection.

Thanks Dan! I stopped short of cleaning/removing the coating entirely. Although the thought did cross my mind. I was fearful when it began to wipe off like it did 🤷‍♂️