EB C5 Z06 Posted January 18, 2017 Share Posted January 18, 2017 Love the way it looks and the ergonomics are awesome. Hopefully, the next generation will be more powerful, though. It needs higher MAX OPM's and more pad spinning torque. I got to try one and was a bit underwhelmed with the power. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 shane@detailedreflections Posted January 19, 2017 Share Posted January 19, 2017 Keep in mind it's unlikely to perform as well as a Rupes or other "top tier" polisher. With a reduction in price comes a reduction in other areas. Is it a tool for the person detailing constantly? Probably a little light duty for that. Is it a tool for the weekend warrior? It's perfectly suited to them! Right tool for the right job with the right user. Rich and Texguy87 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 PostalTwo Posted January 19, 2017 Share Posted January 19, 2017 Shane makes a good point . If u want top of the line u gotta pay for it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 BRZN Posted January 22, 2017 Share Posted January 22, 2017 There's really no need for any more power. The 15mm LT Swirl Killer works just fine and stands up well to it's competition. I was able to correct the super hard paint on this Mercedes with no problem. http://www.adamsforums.com/topic/32078-mercedes-tackled-with-the-swirl-killer/ This machine is top notch! Power of the Swirl Killer: 500watts 2,000-4,500 OPM Rupes LHR15ES 500watts 1,700-4,200 OPM Rupes Mark II 500watts 2,500-5,300 OPM The power of the Swirl Killer falls right in between the two 15mm LT Rupes machines. If running the Rupes Mark II on high speed you'll be taking the chance of wearing out a polishing pad prematurely. Chris@Adams 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 PostalTwo Posted January 23, 2017 Share Posted January 23, 2017 There's really no need for any more power. The 15mm LT Swirl Killer works just fine and stands up well to it's competition. I was able to correct the super hard paint on this Mercedes with no problem. http://www.adamsforums.com/topic/32078-mercedes-tackled-with-the-swirl-killer/ This machine is top notch! Power of the Swirl Killer: 500watts 2,000-4,500 OPM Rupes LHR15ES 500watts 1,700-4,200 OPM Rupes Mark II 500watts 2,500-5,300 OPM The power of the Swirl Killer falls right in between the two 15mm LT Rupes machines. If running the Rupes Mark II on high speed you'll be taking the chance of wearing out a polishing pad prematurely. your specs given for the rupes 15 es are incorrect is 2000-5000 opms that's right from rupes site Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 BRZN Posted January 23, 2017 Share Posted January 23, 2017 (edited) Hmm... I do see on the Rupes site it rated at 2,000-5,000 OPM, but also see it on a companies site the sells the machine rated at what I'd shown it at 1,700-4,200 OPM. So, let's say I was incorrect with my original speed, and the LHR ES15 is 500 OPM on it's highest speed compared to Adam's Swirl Killer. Not that big a difference for the price difference to me. I do own both machines and am totally comfortable with the Swirl Killer, but also enjoy the Rupes. Here's what I'd found online that wasn't from Rupes: Rupes Polisher Comparison Chart Product/Features LHR15ES LHR21ES LHR75E MINI LHR12E Weight 2.6 KG / 5.73 LBS 2.6 KG / 5.73 LBS 2.3 KG / 5.07 LBS 2.6 KG / 5.73 LBS RPM 1700 - 4200 2000 - 4200 4000 - 5500 4000 - 5500 POWER 500W 500W 400W 400W Throw 15mm 21mm 12mm 12mm Pad Size 5.5" 6.5" 3" or 4" 5.5" or 6" Ideal Use For all polishing and vehicle's surface. 15mm throw gives it a great area coverage and saves 40% more time than traditional DA polishers. For bigger surfaces and areas. Wider throw at 21mm for even faster and bigger area coverage. For small areas such as mudguards, front panels or pillars and hard to reach places with big pads. Has the same feature as the BigFoot but neatly packaged in a compact and more maneuverable body, small diameter throw. Edited January 23, 2017 by BRZN Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 EB C5 Z06 Posted January 23, 2017 Author Share Posted January 23, 2017 Watts is not everything. The 1st generation Rupes 15 is 500 watts just like the Mark II 15, but the Mark II has considerably more pad spinning torque. Anyhow, I loved the ergonomics of the Swirl Killer 15mm. If felt very good in my hands. The Swirl Killer MINI looks awesome! Going to buy one. PostalTwo 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 slalom38 Posted February 3, 2017 Share Posted February 3, 2017 There's really no need for any more power. The 15mm LT Swirl Killer works just fine and stands up well to it's competition. I was able to correct the super hard paint on this Mercedes with no problem. http://www.adamsforums.com/topic/32078-mercedes-tackled-with-the-swirl-killer/ This machine is top notch! Power of the Swirl Killer: 500watts 2,000-4,500 OPM Rupes LHR15ES 500watts 1,700-4,200 OPM Rupes Mark II 500watts 2,500-5,300 OPM The power of the Swirl Killer falls right in between the two 15mm LT Rupes machines. If running the Rupes Mark II on high speed you'll be taking the chance of wearing out a polishing pad prematurely. I read a lot about hard vs. soft clear Coat? How do I know what my car is? 2016 metallic black Porsche Macan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 PostalTwo Posted February 3, 2017 Share Posted February 3, 2017 I read a lot about hard vs. soft clear Coat? How do I know what my car is? 2016 metallic black Porsche Macan. U will know when u start to Polish on it. Soft clear corrects easily but sometimes doesn't finish nice without a fine polish and pad. Hard clears are harder to correct but can sometimes be 1 stepped even with a fairly aggressive compound and still finish well BRZN 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 BRZN Posted February 5, 2017 Share Posted February 5, 2017 Many of the European cars have hard clear coats. The Carlisle Adam's Team did a full correction on a Porsche 911 Turbo S a couple years ago, and I don't recall any issues in getting the paint perfect, outside our tent at one of the shows; it was either a Spring or Fall Carlisle. I can't find any pictures... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Love the way it looks and the ergonomics are awesome. Hopefully, the next generation will be more powerful, though. It needs higher MAX OPM's and more pad spinning torque. I got to try one and was a bit underwhelmed with the power.
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