jermonger69 Posted May 25, 2017 Share Posted May 25, 2017 So...when does everyone use Detail Spray or Waterless Wash? Or how do you decide which to use? I kind of feel they almost do the same thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Mariner Posted May 25, 2017 Share Posted May 25, 2017 I use Detail Spray to dry after a two bucket wash, and Waterless Wash to do a quick "wash" wipe down. jermonger69 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 mc2hill Posted May 25, 2017 Share Posted May 25, 2017 DS, but if you are having issues with it streaking, try WW. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 jakerodz7 Posted May 25, 2017 Share Posted May 25, 2017 As Dustin said already, I use detail spray for post 2 bucket wash drying. I have also started using it to wipe off excess solution after a rinseless wash. Waterless is left for bird bombs, or quick wipe downs if I want to try and keep the car clean on a daily basis after getting home from work and I have run out of diluted rinseless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 GXPaycheck Posted May 25, 2017 Share Posted May 25, 2017 Waterless Wash to clean, Detail Spray to shine after its cleaned. falcaineer, Dan@Adams, jermonger69 and 2 others 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 galaxy Posted May 25, 2017 Share Posted May 25, 2017 I torment with the same question. But, since I just went ceramic coating, I think I'm going full waterless for a while based off the fact that ds has some wax qualities to it and will leave something on the surface. The coating left my car so deep and shiny anyways, can't imaging wanting (much less needing) anything added to it. But, they're both a complete breeze to use. If forced at gunpoint to pick only one (based off ease of use), I'd have to say waterless. jermonger69 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Chris@Adams Posted May 25, 2017 Share Posted May 25, 2017 I use DS to dust off my cars after setting in the garage, I use WW to clean car after driving. jermonger69 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Chadley Posted May 25, 2017 Share Posted May 25, 2017 Waterless wash for anything dirty - road dust, bird bombs... Detail Spray is used as a drying agent and to add shine. Too much detail spray causes streaking jermonger69 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Hupp2it Posted May 25, 2017 Share Posted May 25, 2017 I use waterless on top of the ceramic coating and boost. Just don't need to do much to wipe dust and pollen off that finish. I use DS for clay bar lubrication and otherwise infrequently. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 zapdon Posted May 25, 2017 Share Posted May 25, 2017 I use detail spray after wash on the paint and waterless wash to give my wheels including the barrel a final wipedown, jermonger69 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Chadley Posted May 25, 2017 Share Posted May 25, 2017 What I don't get is the difference between waterless wash and Rinseless wash Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Hupp2it Posted May 25, 2017 Share Posted May 25, 2017 (edited) Waterless is basically pre-diluted rinseless. Diluted at 16:1 I believe. Now, it may not be exactly this, but I see it described as such so frequently on these forums that it seems a safe comparison ( I still hedged a bit though ). I now use rinseless diluted in this way instead of buying more waterless and I can't tell a difference from the real waterless. Oh, important to note that the usage is very different. There are good videos on the site to show the two very different techniques, but the chemical can be used for both. Edited May 25, 2017 by Hupp2it jermonger69 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Chadley Posted May 25, 2017 Share Posted May 25, 2017 So same product just different concentration? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Mariner Posted May 25, 2017 Share Posted May 25, 2017 Rinseless at 16:1 is NOT the same formula as Waterless. They are simply comparable enough to be used for the same purpose. LT1xL82, mc2hill and falcaineer 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 falcaineer Posted May 25, 2017 Share Posted May 25, 2017 What I don't get is the difference between waterless wash and Rinseless wash While I struggled with it, too, I finally figured out the difference is in the name... Waterless Wash requires no water. Just use the product straight out of the bottle and some WW towels and you're all set. Used for light dust and dirt, as well as fingerprints. Some very minor shine added. (P.S. WW smells amazing ) Rinseless Wash requires a large bucket of water and several Double Soft Towels. Then, you can go to town, without the need to rinse after you wash the car. Perfect for a dirtier vehicle, but not the caked on stuff (you'll need to get it off the car somehow...maybe with a hose or rinse at a local self serve car wash). This seems to have more shine enhancers than the WW. As Dustin said, diluting the RW creates a waterless wash-like solution, and at a much more economical price point. About 2-3oz added to water in the 32oz spray bottle works great. But, again, you lose the smell of the WW (Rinsless smells good, too, but not the same). LT1xL82, jermonger69 and Dan@Adams 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Mariner Posted May 26, 2017 Share Posted May 26, 2017 Rinseless also has a small amount of wax, while Waterless does not. jermonger69 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 LT1xL82 Posted May 26, 2017 Share Posted May 26, 2017 Rinseless also has a small amount of wax, while Waterless does not. A common misconception...that used to be the case. The current Waterless product does have a small amount of "wax". jermonger69 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 TheWolf Posted May 26, 2017 Share Posted May 26, 2017 A common misconception...that used to be the case. The current Waterless product does have a small amount of "wax". Where did you read that WW has wax? It is my understanding that there is no carnauba wax in WW. From the product description: How is it different than Detail Spray? Adam's Waterless Car Wash is a more effective cleaner, and has more lubricant designed to remove larger dirt particles without causing swirls. It also has no gloss enhancers, so it leaves your paint clean but not glossy. From Dan-the-Man: Waterless Wash has more cleaning agents in it, and very little shine enhancement; whereas Detail Spray has a small amount of carnauba content that will extend any wax protection on the vehicle a little longer and add more shine. Both are used in similar fashion, but for cleaning of dirt and dust, Waterless Wash would be my preferred option. Rinseless Wash and Waterless Wash are actually two unique formulas, similar but not the same, even when Rinseless is diluted down into a Waterless Wash type of mixture. Rich and Mariner 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 falcaineer Posted May 26, 2017 Share Posted May 26, 2017 This may be a simple miscommunication. While the site says "no gloss enhancers," Dan T. overruled that in his post you referenced above (and the portion in bold corrected a post I made ) and I think I've read similar posts from him other places. If it's not "wax" added to the WW, maybe another product or chemical is included for "very little shine enhcancement." Dan T.... jermonger69 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 LT1xL82 Posted May 26, 2017 Share Posted May 26, 2017 "Wax" may of been a poor choice of words on my part...perhaps "gloss enhancer(s)" would of been better. Regardless, my understanding is that the "old" Waterless had none of this "shiney stuff" and the current Waterless has some. jermonger69 and falcaineer 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Chadley Posted May 26, 2017 Share Posted May 26, 2017 jermonger69 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Dan@Adams Posted May 26, 2017 Share Posted May 26, 2017 As I've said in the quoted post before, the newest version of Waterless Wash does add a very small amount of shine since the formula is similar to Rinseless Wash and then tweaked, but I wouldn't really say it adds any level of protection - I use it at least twice a week on my ceramic coated daily driver and it has not affected the coating in any way, and we've been getting a TON of rain in Pennsylvania this April and May - beading and water repelling of the coating is still the same as it was 3 months ago when I put the last application of Ceramic Boost on it (it's due for another application this weekend). If you want a quick and easy-to-use product that you can grab and immediately spray to clean light dirt, bugs, etc, Waterless Wash is perfect and will not build up. If you want to remove some light dust from the car sitting in the garage or out at a show all day and add some great shine and a little more protection, Detail Spray has proven for years and years that it works outstanding If you don't mind testing and mixing a little, Rinseless Wash can be diluted down to give a very similar performing product to Waterless Wash, but some just don't like the hassle of trying to mix things 'just-right', so in that case Waterless Wash is a more simple grab-and-go option. Rinseless Wash mixed into a bucket of water and several plush microfiber towels is also great for when I want a more delicate wipe-down than Waterless Wash with waffle weave towels, for instance if the vehicle is a little more dirty than I want to clean with WW, but maybe still not warranting a full 2 bucket wash/foam gun/etc. So in summary, use what works best for you and what you like, it's not rocket science jermonger69, falcaineer and Chadley 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Black Bowtie Posted May 26, 2017 Share Posted May 26, 2017 (edited) Delete Edited May 26, 2017 by Black Bowtie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Black Bowtie Posted May 26, 2017 Share Posted May 26, 2017 Rinseless has been my go to product for several years. I use it diluted for touch ups, bird bombs and as a drying agent. I have been using it also to clean and hard surfaces like the dash and panels in the interior, so I have been able to replace two products with one. Plus I love the way it makes my black paint pop! jermonger69 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 dbeckC7 Posted December 14, 2017 Share Posted December 14, 2017 Guys can someone answer a question for me? If you use a Si02 based product. Would Waterless Wash be safe to use as a quick spot cleaner? Thanks guys Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 TheWolf Posted December 14, 2017 Share Posted December 14, 2017 48 minutes ago, dbeckC7 said: Guys can someone answer a question for me? If you use a Si02 based product. Would Waterless Wash be safe to use as a quick spot cleaner? Thanks guys Yes, Waterless Wash can be used as a cleaner on Ceramic Coating or other Si02 based product. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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So...when does everyone use Detail Spray or Waterless Wash? Or how do you decide which to use?
I kind of feel they almost do the same thing.
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