Editguy Posted August 20, 2018 Share Posted August 20, 2018 Is this a legit product? I can't find it on Adam's site. https://detailingconnect.com/products/adams-rubber-mat-liner-cleaner-16oz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wildcatz80 Posted August 20, 2018 Share Posted August 20, 2018 The product itself is. I have 1 gallon and 3 16oz. I purchased from one of Adam's dealers Detail Giant. He is located in NY. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shane@detailedreflections Posted August 20, 2018 Share Posted August 20, 2018 It is legit. One of those “dealer only” things. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cwp2016nd Posted August 20, 2018 Share Posted August 20, 2018 3 hours ago, shane@detailedreflections said: It is legit. One of those “dealer only” things. What's the deal with that? I find that kind of strange.... I guess it is the same deal for their fabric protector since I don't see it on the site but people already have it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hamilton Detail Posted August 20, 2018 Share Posted August 20, 2018 (edited) 41 minutes ago, cwp2016nd said: What's the deal with that? I find that kind of strange.... I guess it is the same deal for their fabric protector since I don't see it on the site but people already have it. I actually spoke with Dan about this. He said that the Fabric Protector will be on the Adam's website in a few weeks. He said they did a limited release to some of their dealers. Edited August 20, 2018 by Hamilton Detail Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shane@detailedreflections Posted August 20, 2018 Share Posted August 20, 2018 My guess is that it’s to help drive business to their dealers since they compete directly with the dealers they sell to. It’s a complicated business model. I don’t have a dealer account, only an affiliate account and I can’t get my hands on those products sadly. Needless to say, we don’t use them and use competitors products that are more readily available to us despite wanting to try them. I’m sure someone made the decision along the way that it’s a good business model, but that’s a matter of opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Editguy Posted August 20, 2018 Author Share Posted August 20, 2018 Would this be the ideal product to clean Weathertech floor liners? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mbrazelton Posted August 20, 2018 Share Posted August 20, 2018 20 minutes ago, Editguy said: Would this be the ideal product to clean Weathertech floor liners? Works awesome of Weathertech floor mats Matt wildcatz80 and Editguy 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wildcatz80 Posted August 20, 2018 Share Posted August 20, 2018 13 minutes ago, Mbrazelton said: Works awesome of Weathertech floor mats Matt Yes, what Matt said. I use it on my Wrangler Rubber mats. Editguy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RayS Posted August 20, 2018 Share Posted August 20, 2018 (edited) It does seem like a strange business model, but I guess it works somehow. Dealers are far and few between - Nothing close to Columbia, SC - except the few items one of the Chevy dealers has Dealers don't have web pages - Detail Giant as an example Some products are exclusive to dealers. If the product is exclusive (dealer only) and kept secret (no web site), then how do the 90'sh percent of us that don't have a local (walk in the door) dealer by us find out about or get the product? Call me curious, but I don't see how the model works for so many people scattered around the country. I do see how the model works for the local (walk in the door) dealer since it is a way to get people to stop by and see what is new and dealer exclusive, so if that is the intent I get it. Edited August 20, 2018 by RayS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moons21 Posted August 20, 2018 Share Posted August 20, 2018 14 minutes ago, RayS said: It does seem like a strange business model, but I guess it works somehow. Dealers are far and few between - Nothing close to Columbia, SC - except the few items one of the Chevy dealers has Dealers don't have web pages - Detail Giant as an example Some products are exclusive to dealers. If the product is exclusive (dealer only) and kept secret (no web site), then how do the 90'sh percent of us that don't have a local (walk in the door) dealer by us find out about or get the product? Call me curious, but I don't see how the model works for so many people scattered around the country. I do see how the model works for the local (walk in the door) dealer since it is a way to get people to stop by and see what is new and dealer exclusive, so if that is the intent I get it. I sometimes order from a local online dealer that has better shipping rates within Canada unless there is something that Adam's directly offers or has a sale on. The shipping to Canada sometimes makes it more expensive to buy direct vs. a Canadian dealer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shane@detailedreflections Posted August 20, 2018 Share Posted August 20, 2018 In my small business owner experience and knowledge (which admittedly may be limited), it seems strange for a variety of reasons. First, your dealers who have order and stocking requirements are directly competing with the manufacturer. For example, Adams sells direct to consumers and frequently offers sales. In order to try to maintain market share and orders, the dealer needs to (or should) match those offers. The problem is that the profit margins are established and decisions made at retail pricing. Discounting cuts the margin, and does so considerably. Secondly, the “Adam’s Polishes” searches will inevitably lead to the website. It today’s society of click and ship, the end user has zero need to seek out a dealer. So not only are consumers not being driven to the dealers, they aren’t even being discovered despite the investment to become a dealer. I do have knowledge of the stocking levels for dealers as I’ve looked into making the leap. I have no doubt I’d pick up some sales here and there from people local who would support my business. Making the leap won’t return the investment because the loyalists will support us anyway, regardless of the cost difference. New customers are a price/convenience equation, and that’s one that we can’t compete with unless someone is within immediate proximity to us. Now a dealer has bought into a certain tier of product. This means that they’re investing in so much inventory in exchange for certain pricing. With that, you have to hit ordering minimums monthly or quarterly. What that really turns into is you have to turn your inventory to make money to cover that next order. Without a protected area, what stops someone from ordering on Amazon or direct from Adams? It’s a model where Adams makes the most money by offering to consumers since even at a discount, they still make more than selling to a dealer. In the meantime, the dealers that do sign up front considerable funds in hopes of garnering sales, but competing with Adams and their multiple sales outlets at the same time...again, direct and Amazon. The flip side of the coin would be offering territories or regions and allowing someone who is a dealer to buy into that area (for example X square miles) and any order that comes in from that area is credited to the dealer, and done so regardless of if they have that particular product in stock (sometimes it doesn’t make sense to stock everything). So even if a product drop ships from Adams, their dealer who paid their fee gets credit and gets to make their piece of the pie. As a business owner, a model like that may significantly sway me to make the jump. I front a considerable piece of money, but I know that the manufacturer (who can stock way more than I can) is not competing with me or sniping my sales. In exchange, we would push those individual product sales much harder. We make money. Adams makes money. Customers are taken care of easily and happily. Everyone wins. mc2hill and wildcatz80 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Editguy Posted August 20, 2018 Author Share Posted August 20, 2018 Every time I have purchased through DetailGiant he has always met or exceeded Adam's 15% discount. I plan on giving him all of my business here on out. The fact that I'm local to him is a bonus but even if I weren't and lived on the east coast I would still buy all my Adam's products from him. I understand he doesn't have a web site to purchase through which is inconvenient for some, but Lukas is very responsive to direct messages and I enjoy the personalized service he offers. ZMAN024 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mbrazelton Posted August 20, 2018 Share Posted August 20, 2018 36 minutes ago, RayS said: It does seem like a strange business model, but I guess it works somehow. Dealers are far and few between - Nothing close to Columbia, SC - except the few items one of the Chevy dealers has Dealers don't have web pages - Detail Giant as an example Some products are exclusive to dealers. If the product is exclusive (dealer only) and kept secret (no web site), then how do the 90'sh percent of us that don't have a local (walk in the door) dealer by us find out about or get the product? Call me curious, but I don't see how the model works for so many people scattered around the country. I do see how the model works for the local (walk in the door) dealer since it is a way to get people to stop by and see what is new and dealer exclusive, so if that is the intent I get it. If you message detail giant on facebook he responds within min. I've messaged him on both, and the fact that I order items from him in the east coast, to ship to the midwest shows alot! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RayS Posted August 20, 2018 Share Posted August 20, 2018 1 hour ago, Mbrazelton said: If you message detail giant on facebook he responds within min. I've messaged him on both, and the fact that I order items from him in the east coast, to ship to the midwest shows alot! Unfortunately, there is no Facebook, it is not just me there are many others in the same pattern. If Facebook works for you, I understand that and do not fault you for using it, it is your choice and I respect that. If Adam's went to selling only on Facebook, they would not get my business as I would not be able to order from them - it is a business decision. If there are other dealers that have a web page that forum members reliably use, post who they are, I'm sure they would like some additional business. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black Bowtie Posted August 21, 2018 Share Posted August 21, 2018 I wish they would add it for the average joe to order. I am about out of another brand and have been waiting for Adams to drop it on the site. Looks like I may have to just pick up the other brand locally then. I know there has to be a demand with how many people own Weather Tech and other mats. I have them in four vehicles I own. RayS 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BHarris23 Posted August 21, 2018 Share Posted August 21, 2018 2 hours ago, Black Bowtie said: I wish they would add it for the average joe to order. I am about out of another brand and have been waiting for Adams to drop it on the site. Looks like I may have to just pick up the other brand locally then. I know there has to be a demand with how many people own Weather Tech and other mats. I have them in four vehicles I own. If you email or call one of the dealers who carry it, they will take care of you. I know Grabiak is reallly helpful on the Adam’s products and would recommend them. RayS 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RayS Posted August 21, 2018 Share Posted August 21, 2018 1 hour ago, BHarris23 said: If you email or call one of the dealers who carry it, they will take care of you. I know Grabiak is reallly helpful on the Adam’s products and would recommend them. Thank you for passing on the information about Grabiak, who can be found by going to gpcperformance.com/products/brand/adams_car_care They do seem to be well stocked according to their web site and I will keep the site handy for dealer exclusive items or when Adam's main site it out of stock. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gooseman488 Posted August 22, 2018 Share Posted August 22, 2018 On 8/20/2018 at 2:34 PM, moons21 said: I sometimes order from a local online dealer that has better shipping rates within Canada unless there is something that Adam's directly offers or has a sale on. The shipping to Canada sometimes makes it more expensive to buy direct vs. a Canadian dealer. Who do you order from? The S&H really stings when I need just a couple small items and what is a 30-40$ order is now 50-60 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moons21 Posted August 22, 2018 Share Posted August 22, 2018 55 minutes ago, Gooseman488 said: Who do you order from? The S&H really stings when I need just a couple small items and what is a 30-40$ order is now 50-60 They are one of the dealers, there is another one in Burlington, detail fanatics, however, I only used them once a long time ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColoradoSHObro Posted August 23, 2018 Share Posted August 23, 2018 (edited) A reputable hardware store here in boulder,co happens to carry nearly the full line of adams products. stumbled in there today on my lunch break and was surprised to see this. . . Edited August 23, 2018 by ColoradoSHObro Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pirahnah3 Posted August 23, 2018 Share Posted August 23, 2018 Now there is a new one for ya.....but hey I bet it sells. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bscott94 Posted August 24, 2018 Share Posted August 24, 2018 17 hours ago, ColoradoSHObro said: A reputable hardware store here in boulder,co happens to carry nearly the full line of adams products. stumbled in there today on my lunch break and was surprised to see this. . . I need that in Indiana. There is even the Cars and Coffee DS. Any other Limited Edition items? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shmedley Posted August 24, 2018 Share Posted August 24, 2018 I'm liking that different sprayer on the Microfiber revitalizer. Surprised they have that but not the rubber mat cleaner Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColoradoSHObro Posted August 24, 2018 Share Posted August 24, 2018 9 hours ago, Bscott94 said: I need that in Indiana. There is even the Cars and Coffee DS. Any other Limited Edition items? No that is there full selection in the pic. ironic that the only retail place it seems to be available is also about 40mins away from adams HQ where you could probably walk in and get it from the source if you asked nicely ?♂️ Bscott94 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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