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Is Colorbond a good product for Adam's ? www.colorbondtuner.net  

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  1. 1. Is Colorbond a good product for Adam's ? www.colorbondtuner.net

    • I would be interested in purchasing colorbond if Adam's carried it.
    • I would not be interested in this product.


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ColorBond is a OEM approved ( Ford Motorcraft ) interior aerosol spray dye that will penetrate and create a molecular bond that will restore or change the color in 45 seconds, to leather , vinyl, abs plastic, poly carbonate, pvc, tpu, fiberglass and metal.

 

Colorbond is easy to use will always provide an OEM finish. ColorBond works on everthing from carpets to leather to exterior trim. Once can does it all. Please visit the web site www.colorbondtuner.net and view the 1.5 minute video for further explaination.

 

If Adam's offered this product, would you purchase it ? Adam has asked me to pose this question to the forums for a response.

 

I think it fits well in their offerings.

 

thank you / Malcolm Johnson

malcolm@bryndana.com

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What does Adams make that colors any fabric???

 

 

 

I don't think this product is competing with SVRT

 

 

 

That doesn't mean they HAVE to use it on their car. I agree with you that I wouldn't use this stuff on a mint vehicle. But, I don't think that is what it is designed/intended for.

 

The point isn't to COLOR the fabric the point is to RESTORE it. Adam's Interior products work great on getting that color back.

 

SVRT makes gray plastic look dark again and if that doesnt work I would buy some Back to Black before this.

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Does it meet ASTM specifications? If so, which one? I am curious to see how/what testing was done

 

I am thinking about trying this, a close friend of mine has a pretty expensive SeaRay that has some small discoloration on one of the seat cushions that drives him absolutely nuts. He was going to have it reupholstered, but this may be a better option.

 

 

Hello Mato,

 

Good questions

 

Both specifications conform to Quality System requirements, QS-9000 an included a total of 36 different SAE (Society of Automotive Engineering ) tests which include, adhesion, fade, abrasion, UV, Heat Exposure, accelerated weathering , to name a few.

 

Restoring the color of the faded or discolored Sea Ray cushion is a piece of cake. It is done everyday.

 

regards / Malcolm

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Any company that has experienced the OEM specification process knows how difficult the process is. It is not a trivial issue. It costs thousands of dollars and the products are tested to failure. No OEM wants to go through a recall... Toyota.

 

When a world wide automotive spec is issued, the other automotive OEM's adapt the spec for their own use. Everyone from Ford to Mercedes will use the spec in one way.

 

Does it meet ASTM specifications? If so, which one? I am curious to see how/what testing was done

 

I am thinking about trying this, a close friend of mine has a pretty expensive SeaRay that has some small discoloration on one of the seat cushions that drives him absolutely nuts. He was going to have it reupholstered, but this may be a better option.

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I have used something similar back in the day with mixed reviews. I can not comment on ColorBond because I have yet to try it. As Dylan and many others have commented, we have a strong reputation to adhere to at Adam's. We would have to be 100% sure this product would work "failure proof" across a very large range of vehicles, not just Ford's. Just to give an example, we had one plastic in the redevelopment of our In and Out spray that actually melted! We found this out right after we signed off on the product, and had to reformulate (last minute, at not a small cost to us), just to make sure our customers would be 110% happy. I feel this would be a very expensive undertaking that would be tough to offer at a competitive price for our customers. However, this might me a very interesting product and I would not rule it out! Let's continue to see what others have to say.

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Well, I'll be the first to burst the bubble.

 

After watching the 1980's commercial on the website, Adam already makes products that do this and demonstrates how easily they work.

 

You show a Brownish leather seat changing to White... How long did that take with the spray stuff? It just doesn't WORK spraying something on leather (other than paint) just doesn't change the color, it requires rubbing and force.

 

Also.... Plastic on a car is normally near paint. I dont think I'd be willing to spray this stuff on paint. Thats why I use mostly SVRT on my plastics.

 

:iagree: 110%

 

 

 

Which brings me to another point.... Adam promises 110% satisfaction. Can you offer the same thing for just a product that sprays on? Probably not. I'd think it would be less than 1%.

 

I'd probably go through the forums and take a look at some of the cars people have and use Adam's to TAKE CARE OF and not restore. You're talking people that have like $70,000 Corvettes and stuff. They aren't going to buy this.

 

 

Call Corvette America, maybe they know something that you don't

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ColorBond is permanent will give an OEM finish . It actually penetrates the substrate to give complete grain simulation. Generally three mist coats will change a color. Apply lightly and allow five minutes between applications.

 

Carpets must first be cleaned and dried. Apply light mist coats. Wait five minutes between coats. Lightly brush the carpets to expose the tuft of the carpet .

 

CB has two factories in the United States. Our customer list includes tier one manufacturers Johnson Control, Mercedes, Ford , Sea Ray Boats, Disney World to name a few. They are Fortune 500 companies who look for productive solutions to complicated problems.

 

I understand the perception that you all must have but We have so many satisfied customers who initally felt the same way. It is hard to get past the idea that something can be as good as stated.

 

CB was tested by Ford in the Research Labs for seven years. CB competed against Dupont and Sherwin Williams for the two world wide spec's. At the time Sherwin Williams provided Ford with their Dupli Color aerosol spray line for MotorCraft. Ultimtely CB prevailed on the spec's and became Ford's vendor.

 

Any company that has experienced the OEM specification process knows how difficult the process is. It is not a trivial issue. It costs thousands of dollars and the products are tested to failure. No OEM wants to go through a recall... Toyota.

 

When a world wide automotive spec is issued, the other automotive OEM's adapt the spec for their own use. Everyone from Ford to Mercedes will use the spec in one way.

 

I cannot answer all of your questions and address the skepticism. However, I do enjoy reading your support as well as misgivings.

 

Malcolm Johnson CEO

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Hello,

 

I know that you find this impossible, but ColorBond is truely a DIY product with an OEM finish in an aerosol. One can does it all. CB earned Two world wide perfomance specifications with Ford. You need to get up to speed on this new technology

 

regards / Malcolm

 

Hey Malcolm,

 

Any input on the questions asked earlier? I'm curious to know about the durability of the treatment, any risk of color transfer, and how it will change carpet feel/texture.

 

Like I mentioned earlier, the only experience I've had with interior dyes is that they come off too easily. Not saying that its necessarily true of your product, but have you tested the durability or its ability to stand up to something like our leather and interior cleaner or a carpet extractor?

 

Anytime I've seen it in the past it didn't take much to take the color off and in some cases it would even transfer to light cloths if rubbed with any kind of pressure.

 

Thanks for your insight. :2thumbs:

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Well, I'll be the first to burst the bubble.

 

After watching the 1980's commercial on the website, Adam already makes products that do this and demonstrates how easily they work.

 

You show a Brownish leather seat changing to White... How long did that take with the spray stuff? It just doesn't WORK spraying something on leather (other than paint) just doesn't change the color, it requires rubbing and force.

 

Also.... Plastic on a car is normally near paint. I dont think I'd be willing to spray this stuff on paint. Thats why I use mostly SVRT on my plastics.

 

Hello,

 

I know that you find this impossible, but ColorBond is truely a DIY product with an OEM finish in an aerosol. One can does it all. CB earned Two world wide perfomance specifications with Ford. You need to get up to speed on this new technology

 

regards / Malcolm

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If Adam's offered this product, would you purchase it ?

The question asked by the poll isn't whether or not this would be a good product, but rather "Is Colorbond a good product for Adam's?" In my opinion, absolutely not. We've all come to love Adam's products, and know that what we're buying is the best on the market. Despite Dylan's teaser posts, even something as straightforward as a lug nut brush still isn't available yet, because they want to make absolutely sure that it is worthy of being backed by the Adam's name before putting it on the market. There are products out there that Adam's could offer and easily make a profit on, but they don't because the product doesn't fit in with what Adam's stands for. To quote Adam himself from a different thread, "Making a profit would be nice, but for now, we are focused on getting our system nailed, perfected." (And I might add that they're doing a pretty good job of achieving that perfection so far.) If Adam's did offer Colorbond products, they would be backed by the 110% guarantee, and this could potentially be a source of losses, not profit. I'm not saying it's a bad product, never having used it I don't know. Even though most people here wouldn't let their cars get to that point, as others have pointed out, there are situations where it may be useful. In those cases, they can purchase it elsewhere. This is all just my opinion, but I'm fairly certain we won't see this product on the Adam's site anytime soon.
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I think this is more for situations beyond cleaning and conditioning repair Jason... like if you have a classic with the original seats, but they've gotten bleached out from sun exposure and lack of care. No amount of cleaning and conditioning restores that... it takes something like this or a complete reupholstery job. Obviously this is cheaper, but the question of longevity and durability remain.

 

:iagree:

 

This is exactly where I would see a use for it

 

Do I own any cars that need to be restored? No

Do I know people that that need a car restored? Yes

 

 

Perhaps Malcom can chime in and answer some questions about the longevity of his specific product?

 

How long does the leather coloring last? How about carpet coloring? Also does the carpet product change the feel or softness of the carpet in any way? Does it change the feel or softness to anything it is applied to?

 

These are GREAT questions that hopefully Malcolm could shed some light on (added 1 more)

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I think this is more for situations beyond cleaning and conditioning repair Jason... like if you have a classic with the original seats, but they've gotten bleached out from sun exposure and lack of care. No amount of cleaning and conditioning restores that... it takes something like this or a complete reupholstery job. Obviously this is cheaper, but the question of longevity and durability remain.

 

Then also given our customer base, how many people are going to have a car in such condition as to require that? If anyones seats were in need of recoloring either our products aren't working or they just now found us.

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Perhaps Malcom can chime in and answer some questions about the longevity of his specific product?

 

How long does the leather coloring last? How about carpet coloring? Also does the carpet product change the feel or softness of the carpet in any way?

 

My experience with fabric and leather dyes is pretty limited, but the few times I've come across it our Leather & Interior Cleaner had no problem completely removing it... on in particular was an older Toyota Avalon, the customer had the seats dyed by a dealership when he bought it used due to some discoloration, but it had begun to discolor unevenly from the rest of the seat.

 

Full strength leather & Interior cleaner w/ a brush took it all off which is what he wanted.

 

Not sure what the brand of dye was, if it was colorbond or whatever, but I remember thinking it sure didn't take much to remove it leading me to believe that it could easily transfer to clothing as well.

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Adam already makes products that do this and demonstrates how easily they work.

 

What does Adams make that colors any fabric???

 

Thats why I use mostly SVRT on my plastics.

 

I don't think this product is competing with SVRT

 

You're talking people that have like $70,000 Corvettes and stuff. They aren't going to buy this.

 

That doesn't mean they HAVE to use it on their car. I agree with you that I wouldn't use this stuff on a mint vehicle. But, I don't think that is what it is designed/intended for.

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So you never had an exact color match. I will say that the stuff worked good and made the floor mats look new, but I have no idea how long it lasts.

 

See thats ok because it wasn't YOUR car it was there to sell and people had the choice. If I screw up my truck seats I have to live with it.

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I wasn't going to chime in on this, but since you guys were talking about the carpet coloring I will. Back in my dealership working days I used some products like these, if not the same brand. I maybe used these types of products a hand full of times on a used cars that had to be cleaned for the lot. If the carpets were really badly stained we would break out the spray. The problem with the stuff is that it only came in a couple of colors. So you never had an exact color match. I will say that the stuff worked good and made the floor mats look new, but I have no idea how long it lasts.

 

Like Ray stated, if you're proactive about cleaning and protecting your interior, you should never need this.

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It would be interesting to try but I imagine a shampooer or carpet cleaner would take the dye out in a second. I also wonder if it runs when it gets wet.

 

See heres my thing... you order something that LOOKS like the color you have and its wrong, then your stuck with a huge discolored spot. Or you sell the car and get a different color and the cans still full, no point in keeping it... waste of money.

 

Sorry my dad bought some of this ALONG time ago (probably about the time the commercial was made) and it was crap and didnt work. Its still in a cabinet down the basement and it never worked.

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Doesn't look like something I'd buy often. I could see maybe using the carpet coloring on a car with stains beyond repair. But other than that not sure.

It would be interesting to try but I imagine a shampooer or carpet cleaner would take the dye out in a second. I also wonder if it runs when it gets wet.

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I never let my car get in a condition where it needs to be repaired. It is always better to be proactive with proper care and maintenance as opposed to reactive and holding on to a pipe dream that some mericle product will make my 10 year old neglected interior look brand new again. Since I have been wondering since I first saw this poll this afternoon. Where are your Products made? Color me skeptical but I have not had much luck with any of these miracle products, and I would not expect a spray can product to yield very good results.

 

:iagree: 110%

 

Which brings me to another point.... Adam promises 110% satisfaction. Can you offer the same thing for just a product that sprays on? Probably not. I'd think it would be less than 1%.

 

I'd probably go through the forums and take a look at some of the cars people have and use Adam's to TAKE CARE OF and not restore. You're talking people that have like $70,000 Corvettes and stuff. They aren't going to buy this.

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