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I think AJ / Adam should put a health warning on their videos:jester:

Just finished claying the car, 6 hours including washing. Feet, arms and back are sore:( actually I think every muscle is crying out. I used AJ's aggressive technique:glasses: and it feels smooth as. Still got 2x polishing and a wax to go:help: Luckily I've got a :pc:

Is it normal to need more than a bottle of detail spray in one session? I had to get another bottle(OTC). Should of got the gallon, but at $90 I went for the cheaper option ($30 16oz) didn't work out cheaper:(

The bonnet, roof etc was really bad. In some places I had to fold the clay over 4 times in a 2 foot area. It was yellow from pollen. The vertical surfaces were quite good, only 1 fold.

Is it ok to attack to swirls tonight and then carry on tomorrow morning with the polish and wax? It's under cover, would I need to give it another wash / wipe down with detail spray tomorrow?

Picked up a Nilfisk water blaster and it came with the foam spray bottle. Used a 4:1 ratio with Adam's car wash and worked really well.

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I think AJ / Adam should put a health warning on their videos:jester:

Just finished claying the car, 6 hours including washing. Feet, arms and back are sore:( actually I think every muscle is crying out. I used AJ's aggressive technique:glasses: and it feels smooth as. Still got 2x polishing and a wax to go:help: Luckily I've got a :pc:

Is it normal to need more than a bottle of detail spray in one session? I had to get another bottle(OTC). Should of got the gallon, but at $90 I went for the cheaper option ($30 16oz) didn't work out cheaper:(

The bonnet, roof etc was really bad. In some places I had to fold the clay over 4 times in a 2 foot area. It was yellow from pollen. The vertical surfaces were quite good, only 1 fold.

Is it ok to attack to swirls tonight and then carry on tomorrow morning with the polish and wax? It's under cover, would I need to give it another wash / wipe down with detail spray tomorrow?

Picked up a Nilfisk water blaster and it came with the foam spray bottle. Used a 4:1 ratio with Adam's car wash and worked really well.

 

Here's a little trick to help save your DS. You don't "have" to have DS to clay the paint. All you need is a lubricant. Heck, I've used water and gotten the desired results. Use your clay right through the soap.

 

After washing and rinsing, soap-up once more and clay through the soap. It achieves the same results, eliminates the clay step after drying off the car (everything is done in the wet bay) and will save a butt load of DS for other uses.

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You're sore just after washing and claying?

 

Whats your address so we can call the ambulance for when you get started with the PC.

 

:willy:

 

 

I can usually go through 3/4 of a bottle of DS between clay and the PC pads, but I have a truck.

 

Gallons are the way to go. I started off buying the 16oz bottles but I've since bought a gallon of everything. You get 8, 16oz bottles in a Gallon. So you really only pay for 3 bottles if you buy a gallon. Its worth it.

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Washing and claying are usually the easy part for me... It's the bending over with the PC that tear my back up... I've had back surgery so it sets me back a couple of days afterwards... DS should only be bought in gallons as far as I'm concerned. I have a 5 gallon container of it that I fill all my bottles off of.

 

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I think AJ / Adam should put a health warning on their videos:jester:

Just finished claying the car, 6 hours including washing. Feet, arms and back are sore:( actually I think every muscle is crying out. I used AJ's aggressive technique:glasses: and it feels smooth as. Still got 2x polishing and a wax to go:help: Luckily I've got a :pc:

Is it normal to need more than a bottle of detail spray in one session? I had to get another bottle(OTC). Should of got the gallon, but at $90 I went for the cheaper option ($30 16oz) didn't work out cheaper:(

The bonnet, roof etc was really bad. In some places I had to fold the clay over 4 times in a 2 foot area. It was yellow from pollen. The vertical surfaces were quite good, only 1 fold.

Is it ok to attack to swirls tonight and then carry on tomorrow morning with the polish and wax? It's under cover, would I need to give it another wash / wipe down with detail spray tomorrow?

Picked up a Nilfisk water blaster and it came with the foam spray bottle. Used a 4:1 ratio with Adam's car wash and worked really well.

 

Hi Rick,

 

I bet your car is SMOOTH!

 

Can't wait to see the pics after it's done.

 

I would recommend doing your polishing all at once. Remember, once you do your test spot with the Swirl and Haze Remover and determine the best method for your paint, you don't have to wipe off the product. You can go right over the top with the Fine Machine Polish and then wipe off.

 

From there, you can cover the car and wax it the next day.

 

As long as the car doesn't get dirty overnight, you will not need to wash it. I would just spray it down with the Detail Spray or Waterless Wash first.

 

I hope this helps! Have fun!! :pc:

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Hi Rick,

 

I bet your car is SMOOTH!

 

Can't wait to see the pics after it's done.

 

I would recommend doing your polishing all at once. Remember, once you do your test spot with the Swirl and Haze Remover and determine the best method for your paint, you don't have to wipe off the product. You can go right over the top with the Fine Machine Polish and then wipe off.

 

From there, you can cover the car and wax it the next day.

 

As long as the car doesn't get dirty overnight, you will not need to wash it. I would just spray it down with the Detail Spray or Waterless Wash first.

 

I hope this helps! Have fun!! :pc:

:iagree: Well said!

 

What Ashley said! I spent 5 weeks on and off working on mine while it was parked in the garage.

 

Chris

:iagree: Don't forget pics!:2thumbs:

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Cheers all. I thought I was going to need an ambulance last night, my girlfriend came over and wasn't happy. Said I'm spending too much time fishing and working on my car.

She looked like :mad::pc::explode: and I was:(:bow: Taking her away for the weekend, somewhere special (smiley with a white flag)

If washing and claying are the easy part, I'm in for a shock. Had some pain killers left over from an ACL reconstruction on my right knee:D

I started on the car late and thought 6-7 hours total, start to finish. I'll know next time - start early.

I'll post some pics, wasn't sure if it would be appropriate as I did 1/2 Adam's products + some others.

Just sent Alan (NZ distributor) an email enquiring about the gallons. What would be the best to have, I'm thinking car wash, detail spray and APC.

Going to give the OTC products to my father and order the replacements from Alan. I need the US$ to increase so it makes goods cheaper:jester: also need more buyers down here too. The price you pay to live on the other side of the world:(

Weather turned nasty during the night, got a southerly coming up from Antarctica (5 hour flight from NZ)

 

Just checked, 5 gallons of DS is $360NZD - ouch

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What would be the best to have, I'm thinking car wash, detail spray and APC.

 

These are the big three that you'll almost definitely need gallons of. I also seem to go through a lot of the Waterless Wash, but that's just me.

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Too much time with the car? No such thing. Tell her shes spends too much time shopping.

 

I'm on shaky ground as it is. Her father might dump me out at sea next time we are out fishing:jester:

Going to place an order when Alan gets in touch.

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You will find muscles that you never knew existed!!!!!

I use THIS when I am waxing the lower half of my tbss.

Amazing gift...the adam's bucket was a tad too high for me and I don't have the wheels for it.

 

All finished. The MF towel just flies over the paint:) I got rid of the swirls but not the fine scratches. Might need the Yellow pad. I'll check with Alan when he is up this way. I need a loooooong rest.

Reminds me of my first day at the gym. The trainer worked me hard, friend of my brother. I think he told the trainer to hurt me:( Went for 3 years then stopped last Christmas.

The Adam's grit bucket is too short for me, I'm 6'2". Used a chair. I've got cobble stones so wheels would be nice, but wouldn't work.

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I think the first claying is the worst. I felt the way you do the first time I clayed my finish. After that first claying, it gets easier, as your finish will be cleaner.

 

The car hasn't been clayed since I picked it up new 2 years ago. I worked it like AJ does and now it's as smooth as a babies .... It lives outside and we have a lot of plants and fruit trees. It gets covered in pollen, you can see the yellow pollen caked on it. Time to invest in a car cover.

Its now 20:25 (Friday) and time for a shower and dinner. Too sore to go out for the Guy Fawkes displays, fireworks going off all around me. I don't even feel like a beer:willy: where are those pain killers:jester:

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Still have to address the glass and trim. Also there is a bit of dust on the car, all my MF towels are wet so didn't wipe the dust off. Having a rest day:D Back into it tomorrow.

I've got rid of the swirls but not the scratches. Placing another order, this time going for the full Adam's products. The wax I used left a greasy streak thats difficult to remove, looks like petroleum based? I've given it and polishes away:)

Looking at getting a LED torch, heard they give the same result as a halogen lamp - portable and cheap. My camera is not the best, old Cannon Ixus 60.

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Hey Rick,

 

I agree on claying, IMO its lame but then, you get a real nice smooth finish.

Nice results so far :) what kind of rims are those Rays?

 

I'm glad the worst part is over, shouldn't be so hard next time. Not too happy, not sure if it's the blue pearl or the products. Next time I'll use all Adam's products:)

 

The wheels are DTM Hiro's in hyper black. Not sure what the 'axis' stands for. They fit Brembo's which is why I upgraded from the factory ones. 245x35x19 front and 275x30x19 rear Falken FK452 tyres. Wheels are nice and easy to clean:D

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Hey Rick,

 

I agree on claying, IMO its lame but then, you get a real nice smooth finish.

Nice results so far :) what kind of rims are those Rays?

 

Claying is not lame at all. It is the necessary foundation of the shine that I have achieved in my paint. Before you can deal with the clear coat and achieve a mirror like finish, you must remove that layer of grime that separates you from the clear coat. If you do not remove that layer of grime, then you will never achieve the level of shine that I can achieve. Claying is one of the most important steps in the whole regiment.

 

I'm with you Rick. Claying is one of the most back breaking, muscle killing parts of the whole process. It took me 3 days to do my whole car. I did not enjoy it at all but talk about a baby butt smooth finish, mine is sweet to this day. Mt car lives in the garage though.

 

As far as how much you can do and where it is okay to stop, I do it this way. I clay as much of the car as I want to and stop after finishing the panel that I'm working on. I can come back and pick up where I left off the next day. Once I start the swirl removing process, I first figure out how many passes that it is going to take with SHR in order to get a 2x2' area perfect. Keep in mind that I go for perfection, where someone else may be satisfied with less than perfection. Everyone has their own level of satisfaction so What may be acceptable for me may be overkill for you.

 

I will begin working a panel with SHR until I complete that panel. If I get tired, I stop once the panel that I am working on is swirl free using SHR. Notice that I said nothing about using FMP. I will not break out FMP until I have completed the entire car with SHR and I am satisfied with the results that I have achieved. I can come back on another day and pick up where I left off using SHR until I have completed the entire car. Only at that point will I move to FMP. I will do with FMP just as I did with SHR. If I get tired, I'll finish that panel and stop. I'll pick up where I left off the next day.

 

One thing that I don't do that Adam does is use FMP on top of SHR at the same time. He's why. SHR removes swirls, scratches and haze. When I do a pass with SHR, how do I know that all the swirls, scratches and haze has been removed from the paint if I don't wipe off the SHR and look at the paint? Since I know what SHR does, I don't want to move to FMP until I am positive that SHR is no longer needed. The last thing that I want to do is use FMP and realize that there is damage still in the paint and have to use SHR again. That means that I have just wasted the FMP that I used because every time that I use SHR, it must be followed with FMP. Thus, I buff, wipe off and inspect. I will do that with SHR as many times as it takes until all the damage is gone. Only then will I move to FMP.

 

As I said before, I go for perfection. Adam use to do this for money and is not going to spend the time on one car to make it perfect, nor are his customers going to give him their car for weeks at a time in order for him to make it perfect. He's got to eat and feed his family. I on the other hand don't do this for money and the only car I'm going to fix is my own. I won't even do my girlfriend's car. Thus, I got all the time in the world and can go as slow as a snail. That's exactly what I do. That also explains why Adam and I do this two different ways.

 

Once you're done claying, you've done the hard part. Using my technique, you make the polisher work for you. Adam does it the opposite, working the polisher in order to speed up the results. Again, I have all day and that's why my technique is as you see in my videos. Time is not a factor in my life unless I'm fixing your network. Then it's $130 an hour. :D

 

There's my 2 cents. That was probably more like 10 bucks and some change. :confused:

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Claying is not lame at all. It is the necessary foundation of the shine that I have achieved in my paint. Before you can deal with the clear coat and achieve a mirror like finish, you must remove that layer of grime that separates you from the clear coat. If you do not remove that layer of grime, then you will never achieve the level of shine that I can achieve. Claying is one of the most important steps in the whole regiment.

 

I'm with you Rick. Claying is one of the most back breaking, muscle killing parts of the whole process. It took me 3 days to do my whole car. I did not enjoy it at all but talk about a baby butt smooth finish, mine is sweet to this day. Mt car lives in the garage though.

 

As far as how much you can do and where it is okay to stop, I do it this way. I clay as much of the car as I want to and stop after finishing the panel that I'm working on. I can come back and pick up where I left off the next day. Once I start the swirl removing process, I first figure out how many passes that it is going to take with SHR in order to get a 2x2' area perfect. Keep in mind that I go for perfection, where someone else may be satisfied with less than perfection. Everyone has their own level of satisfaction so What may be acceptable for me may be overkill for you.

 

I will begin working a panel with SHR until I complete that panel. If I get tired, I stop once the panel that I am working on is swirl free using SHR. Notice that I said nothing about using FMP. I will not break out FMP until I have completed the entire car with SHR and I am satisfied with the results that I have achieved. I can come back on another day and pick up where I left off using SHR until I have completed the entire car. Only at that point will I move to FMP. I will do with FMP just as I did with SHR. If I get tired, I'll finish that panel and stop. I'll pick up where I left off the next day.

 

One thing that I don't do that Adam does is use FMP on top of SHR at the same time. He's why. SHR removes swirls, scratches and haze. When I do a pass with SHR, how do I know that all the swirls, scratches and haze has been removed from the paint if I don't wipe off the SHR and look at the paint? Since I know what SHR does, I don't want to move to FMP until I am positive that SHR is no longer needed. The last thing that I want to do is use FMP and realize that there is damage still in the paint and have to use SHR again. That means that I have just wasted the FMP that I used because every time that I use SHR, it must be followed with FMP. Thus, I buff, wipe off and inspect. I will do that with SHR as many times as it takes until all the damage is gone. Only then will I move to FMP.

 

As I said before, I go for perfection. Adam use to do this for money and is not going to spend the time on one car to make it perfect, nor are his customers going to give him their car for weeks at a time in order for him to make it perfect. He's got to eat and feed his family. I on the other hand don't do this for money and the only car I'm going to fix is my own. I won't even do my girlfriend's car. Thus, I got all the time in the world and can go as slow as a snail. That's exactly what I do. That also explains why Adam and I do this two different ways.

 

Once you're done claying, you've done the hard part. Using my technique, you make the polisher work for you. Adam does it the opposite, working the polisher in order to speed up the results. Again, I have all day and that's why my technique is as you see in my videos. Time is not a factor in my life unless I'm fixing your network. Then it's $130 an hour. :D

 

There's my 2 cents. That was probably more like 10 bucks and some change. :confused:

 

Well said, as previously mentioned in your videos, "yo shine ain't gonna be like my shine" but I find it lame, on all the pressure your putting while keeping the clay lubricated, hitting the PC afterward with less energy and all that. :P

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Well said, as previously mentioned in your videos, "yo shine ain't gonna be like my shine" but I find it lame, on all the pressure your putting while keeping the clay lubricated, hitting the PC afterward with less energy and all that. :P

 

That's fine, just don't park next to me at a car show, You'll find out just how lame your shine is! :thumbsup:

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I'm with you Rick. Claying is one of the most back breaking, muscle killing parts of the whole process. It took me 3 days to do my whole car. I did not enjoy it at all but talk about a baby butt smooth finish, mine is sweet to this day. Mt car lives in the garage though:

My shoulders, neck and wrists are still sore. I can now see why you ONLY detail your car. I wasn't ready for the amount of detail spray I used - gallon ordered:) Looking for a quality car cover. Also going to pick up a Halogen light, one that has 2 lights and on a stand so I can move it around.

 

There's my 2 cents. That was probably more like 10 bucks and some change

Much appreciated, I’m sure it’s worth more than $10. A mate of mine is a traditional Maori carver. I'll get something like the pic for you. I'll post it to Adam's (Ashley ?) to pass onto you.

 

Hei Matau - Fish hook originally carved from Maui's Grandmother's jawbone. Used to fish up the North Island. Brings Good Luck and Prosperity.

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Well said, as previously mentioned in your videos, "yo shine ain't gonna be like my shine" but I find it lame, on all the pressure your putting while keeping the clay lubricated, hitting the PC afterward with less energy and all that. :P

 

I found it hard work, but I'm glad I put the extra effort in:glasses: I used AJ's technique and man is that paint smooth:D :2thumbs:

I've ordered replacement products and Alan is in Auckland next weekend (14th) for a muscle car club detailing clinic. Looks like I'm going to remove the products I used and redo it with Adam's:pc:

 

Do you know about the Abu Dhabi V8 Supercar race in Feb (10-12th) 2011 at the Yas Marina Circuit in Abu Dhabi. One of the races is in Hamilton NZ and well worth the look.

 

cheers

Rick

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