SYMAWD Posted March 12, 2013 Share Posted March 12, 2013 Today I used DWC on some really dirty rims on a VW Routan (see full detail in detail write up section). Before During and after Unfortunately, even after 3 applications and agitations, this was left over. Overall not a bad product, but not a miracle worker. It makes cleaning rims easy though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marylander Posted March 12, 2013 Share Posted March 12, 2013 Did you get into those barrels with a TurboStick or anything like that? That's what I did on my VW's wheels this weekend and it really did an amazing job. But I also know sometimes that barrel gunk can be on there really good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SYMAWD Posted March 12, 2013 Author Share Posted March 12, 2013 Did you get into those barrels with a TurboStick or anything like that? That's what I did on my VW's wheels this weekend and it really did an amazing job. But I also know sometimes that barrel gunk can be on there really good. Went back there 3 times with a wheel woolie and that was the bottom of the wheel so I had full access to it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArmyAcadia09 Posted March 12, 2013 Share Posted March 12, 2013 Wow Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Team Adam's Posted March 12, 2013 Share Posted March 12, 2013 interesting... wonder what in the barrels is stubborn enough to stand up to the cleaner. whats up with the green in this one? almost looks like APC on the there too? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArmyAcadia09 Posted March 12, 2013 Share Posted March 12, 2013 Concur w apc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SYMAWD Posted March 12, 2013 Author Share Posted March 12, 2013 interesting... wonder what in the barrels is stubborn enough to stand up to the cleaner. whats up with the green in this one? almost looks like APC on the there too? It's not. It's just the camera messing with the color a bit. Notice the green ring on the bottom of the rim, that isn't actually there. I did the wheels before the tires. I even saturated the wheel woolie with the DWC and it didn't get it off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Z71_Denali Posted March 12, 2013 Share Posted March 12, 2013 you sure its something caked onto the barrels, and not paint worn off? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SYMAWD Posted March 12, 2013 Author Share Posted March 12, 2013 you sure its something caked onto the barrels, and not paint worn off? I'll check again, but I'm 99.9% sure that it is something caked on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gdwenger Posted March 12, 2013 Share Posted March 12, 2013 Went back there 3 times with a wheel woolie and that was the bottom of the wheel so I had full access to it. You did four wheels three times and used only 1/5 of a bottle? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SYMAWD Posted March 12, 2013 Author Share Posted March 12, 2013 You did four wheels three times and used only 1/5 of a bottle? No, only that one wheel pictured in this thread and I only did the barrel again because the face was perfect after the 1st application. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SYMAWD Posted March 12, 2013 Author Share Posted March 12, 2013 So I just went out and rubbed off today's brake dust (this thing creates dust like crazy) and it definitely seems to be something caked on there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Z71_Denali Posted March 13, 2013 Share Posted March 13, 2013 Well then nothing short of wet sanding will probably get it off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GXPaycheck Posted March 13, 2013 Share Posted March 13, 2013 Maybe some #0000 steel wool? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GaryW Posted March 13, 2013 Share Posted March 13, 2013 I tried it on my wheel, and not sure what happened. Sprayed it on agitate it with brush. spray alittle more on spot I missed. Left like a stain on one wheel. had like dried on white stuff. Real hard to get off. The wheels were real shiny though. Once I got it most of way off wheel did look good. One wheel still has some of this staining. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Team Adam's Posted March 13, 2013 Share Posted March 13, 2013 Matt, Do me a favor... next time you have a moment to play with the cleaner get the wheel in a position where part of the stain is at the lowest point of rotation... spray a little of the DWC in there and let it dwell longer... as long as you can without drying. See if it pulls that contamination out. If you don't see any color change then its something besides metallic combination so I'd try to attack it with APC... good be grease/petroleum based and need a degreaser to get it out of there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Team Adam's Posted March 13, 2013 Share Posted March 13, 2013 I tried it on my wheel, and not sure what happened. Sprayed it on agitate it with brush. spray alittle more on spot I missed. Left like a stain on one wheel. had like dried on white stuff. Real hard to get off. The wheels were real shiny though. Once I got it most of way off wheel did look good. One wheel still has some of this staining. Take a little revive polish or fmp to it. Looks like it was either allowed to dry or sprayed on the wheel when it wasn't completely cool. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GaryW Posted March 13, 2013 Share Posted March 13, 2013 Take a little revive polish or fmp to it. Looks like it was either allowed to dry or sprayed on the wheel when it wasn't completely cool. Thanks Dylan. My wife is setting here with me, she just read this and told me you know, I drove the car before you wash it. I did not even think about it. Thanks man going out there now to work on it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SYMAWD Posted March 13, 2013 Author Share Posted March 13, 2013 (edited) Matt, Do me a favor... next time you have a moment to play with the cleaner get the wheel in a position where part of the stain is at the lowest point of rotation... spray a little of the DWC in there and let it dwell longer... as long as you can without drying. See if it pulls that contamination out. If you don't see any color change then its something besides metallic combination so I'd try to attack it with APC... good be grease/petroleum based and need a degreaser to get it out of there. Will do. Hopefully tomorrow morning. If needed, how long should I let the APC dwell for? I obviously won't let it dry. Edited March 13, 2013 by SYMAWD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Team Adam's Posted March 13, 2013 Share Posted March 13, 2013 As long as you can without it drying... it should be pretty obvious if it starts to work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAYBEN Posted March 14, 2013 Share Posted March 14, 2013 sub'd Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SYMAWD Posted March 14, 2013 Author Share Posted March 14, 2013 Here are the results. Here is the before with the initial amount of DWC (the green really isn't there, it's just my camera) 2 minutes of dwell time 4 minutes of dwell time After agitation and rinse Now onto the APC Initial After 3 minutes of dwell time, agitation, and rinse APC definitely helped. I would guess it would need 2-3 applications to remove it all though. I'll probably just live with it though. It's a minivan and a DD, not a show car. As you can see, just 2 days later, it's full of dust again. The joys of a VW. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Team Adam's Posted March 14, 2013 Share Posted March 14, 2013 Excellent pics... definitely seems to point to the line of gunk being more petroleum based than metallic. Could be oil cast off or something. Very clear that the DWC didn't react with it so its definitely not brake dust. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Z71_Denali Posted March 14, 2013 Share Posted March 14, 2013 hmmm. have the tie rod ends or ball joints been lubed since you've owned it? if its petroleum based it could be from them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SYMAWD Posted March 14, 2013 Author Share Posted March 14, 2013 hmmm. have the tie rod ends or ball joints been lubed since you've owned it? if its petroleum based it could be from them. Not that I know of. It's my parents' car so I really don't do service on it. I think it has only had 3 oil changes and around 4 tire changes (only car that they have ever owned that seems to pick up every nail on the road) and 3 rotations. The car is about 16 months old + the time it spent on the dealer lot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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