DP vs Adams QS for Wheel Protection

[teamcrossworks]

Advertised:

 

"Detailer’s Wheel Coating is a nano-glass ceramic coating that provides your wheels with unparalleled protection against brake dust, dirt, road grime, oil and tar. Formulated using nano-glass ceramic particles, Detailer’s Wheel Coating blankets your wheels in a durable, high-gloss protective barrier that resists brake-dust build up, keeping your wheels clean and protected in between regular washes. A single application lasts up to 1 year!"

 

I absolutely LOVE Adam's Quick Sealant!!! I'm just curious how others think it compares to the "nano-glass ceramic coating" DP promotes.

 

Thanks!

[Chewy]

Never used it, but I try to stay with products that have more than one use.  AQS lasts a LONG time when you clean the wheels correctly and you can use it all over your car.  

 

I always love when companies throw out big words or use things like "Teflon" "PTFE" "ceramic" and "NANO" to make their products sell.  

[camaro2ssblack]

In before this thread gets locked....

There is no absolutely no real comparison between a coating and an aerosol sealant.  They are two completely different products with different long term capabilities.  In the short term you wouldnt notice a huge difference...

[teamcrossworks]

 

In before this thread gets locked....

There is no absolutely no real comparison between a coating and an aerosol sealant.  They are two completely different products with different long term capabilities.  In the short term you wouldnt notice a huge difference...

 

Not sure I understand?

[teamcrossworks]

 

Never used it, but I try to stay with products that have more than one use.  AQS lasts a LONG time when you clean the wheels correctly and you can use it all over your car.  

 

I always love when companies throw out big words or use things like "Teflon" "PTFE" "ceramic" and "NANO" to make their products sell.

 

I agree. But sometimes the big words make me think. I will never buy anything but Adams (learned that lesson) but didn't know if we should be pushing Adam and Dylon to come out with something similar or have they already with the QS...if that makes sense. LOL

[camaro2ssblack]

A coating is more durable than a sealant.  Its really as simple as that.  If you dont want to reapply sealant every 3-4 weeks, then use a coating. 

[BKazzle]

Coating = permanent/semi-permanent protection...which doesn't really mean permanent like we know it. They refer to permanent as something that won't come off during normal circumstances. Also, some if not all, lay thicker than waxes and sealants.

 

Sealant = protection...protection that will wear off under normal circumstances.

 

Apples and oranges

 

I tried to make the definitions as simple as possible.

[Baron_Von_Awesome]

Apples to oranges, as others have stated.  The DP coating line is still fairly new, so it's not even known it will live up to its claim.  From my experience, they hype up stuff almost more than Chem. Guys does (which is saying A LOT) and the products ultimately fall short of expectations.

 

PTFE and Teflon are the same thing and are used to sell products because......the product happens contain PTFE.  A lot of "wheel waxes" out there use PTFE due to it being able to withstand some pretty insane temps and because dirt washes off nice and easy.  The word ceramic is used because those products are heat flashed with solvents to maintain its liquid state and, after being exposed to oxygen and/or IR light, cure to form a crystalline structure...meaning they're ceramic.  Nano IS a bit of a buzzword with no true meaning, much like "cloud" in IT, but there aren't any other real short, snazzy words out there to describe what it does - most "nano" paint coatings are ceramic: the terms can be used interchangeably.

 

Bust on it all you want, but when Adam's Ultimate Ceramic Silica Nano Super Sealant comes out, I'm sure the tune will change very quick.  To not have any "nano" products in the works is to ignore a very massive market trend.  The folks at Adam's are well aware of this I'm sure and I have a hunch it won't be long before the first Adam's Nano product hits the shelves...

[texinfin]

I myself have never really wanted to try a wheel sealant. I wash my wheels every week and even though I drive way to fast the brake dust is very minimal. I do use quick detailer on my wheels and that is about it.

[camaro2ssblack]

Apples to oranges, as others have stated. The DP coating line is still fairly new, so it's not even known it will live up to its claim. From my experience, they hype up stuff almost more than Chem. Guys does (which is saying A LOT) and the products ultimately fall short of expectations.

 

PTFE and Teflon are the same thing and are used to sell products because......the product happens contain PTFE. A lot of "wheel waxes" out there use PTFE due to it being able to withstand some pretty insane temps and because dirt washes off nice and easy. The word ceramic is used because those products are heat flashed with solvents to maintain its liquid state and, after being exposed to oxygen and/or IR light, cure to form a crystalline structure...meaning they're ceramic. Nano IS a bit of a buzzword with no true meaning, much like "cloud" in IT, but there aren't any other real short, snazzy words out there to describe what it does - most "nano" paint coatings are ceramic: the terms can be used interchangeably.

 

Bust on it all you want, but when Adam's Ultimate Ceramic Silica Nano Super Sealant comes out, I'm sure the tune will change very quick. To not have any "nano" products in the works is to ignore a very massive market trend. The folks at Adam's are well aware of this I'm sure and I have a hunch it won't be long before the first Adam's Nano product hits the shelves...

Von Awesome post sir. I was too lazy to elaborate

[Chase@InsanePaint]

EEEEeeeeeeenteresting.    Good stuff guys.

 

There's a few things I'm sure most of you understand....

 

1)  Adam's won't make/release a product, unless it has a solid "ease of use" rating.

2)  Made in the USA.

3)  Gotta be better than, ahead of, or AT BARE MINIMUM as good as the best in it's particular category.

4)  Extensive testing before release, to absolutely 120% make sure it crushes expectation.

 

There's more to it than that.  But those are some things we consider.  Not to mention Dylan is a picky bastard, lol, and feels like his personal name is on every bottle of product that ships out of the warehouse.  He takes a huuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuge amount of ownership in how product works.  Just bare that in mind.  And he DOESN'T LIKE "2nd place" at all......

 

Baron & Chase, nice job breaking down the difference in the two.  Good havin' you guys around.

Edited October 4, 2013 by Chase@Adams

[teamcrossworks]

Thank you for this detailed explanation.

 

 

 

Apples to oranges, as others have stated.  The DP coating line is still fairly new, so it's not even known it will live up to its claim.  From my experience, they hype up stuff almost more than Chem. Guys does (which is saying A LOT) and the products ultimately fall short of expectations.

 

PTFE and Teflon are the same thing and are used to sell products because......the product happens contain PTFE.  A lot of "wheel waxes" out there use PTFE due to it being able to withstand some pretty insane temps and because dirt washes off nice and easy.  The word ceramic is used because those products are heat flashed with solvents to maintain its liquid state and, after being exposed to oxygen and/or IR light, cure to form a crystalline structure...meaning they're ceramic.  Nano IS a bit of a buzzword with no true meaning, much like "cloud" in IT, but there aren't any other real short, snazzy words out there to describe what it does - most "nano" paint coatings are ceramic: the terms can be used interchangeably.

 

Bust on it all you want, but when Adam's Ultimate Ceramic Silica Nano Super Sealant comes out, I'm sure the tune will change very quick.  To not have any "nano" products in the works is to ignore a very massive market trend.  The folks at Adam's are well aware of this I'm sure and I have a hunch it won't be long before the first Adam's Nano product hits the shelves...

 

[windycitylp]

I myself have never really wanted to try a wheel sealant. I wash my wheels every week and even though I drive way to fast the brake dust is very minimal. I do use quick detailer on my wheels and that is about it.

 try the QS on the wheels. it takes minutes to apply and it is worth it. youll wish you had done it sooner. 

[Chris@Adams]

I will stick with QS, it works great and is so so so easy to apply & remove.......

[texinfin]

From my experience, they hype up stuff almost more than Chem. Guys does (which is saying A LOT) and the products ultimately fall short of expectations.

This is kind of humorous because the "hype" and Roshan were the main reasons I have purchased Adams.

 

 try the QS on the wheels. it takes minutes to apply and it is worth it. youll wish you had done it sooner. 

I have read a lot of positive things about QS including the durability which is a plus.  Thanks for the recommendation.

[RonBoy]

Apples to oranges, as others have stated.  The DP coating line is still fairly new, so it's not even known it will live up to its claim.  From my experience, they hype up stuff almost more than Chem. Guys does (which is saying A LOT) and the products ultimately fall short of expectations.

 

PTFE and Teflon are the same thing and are used to sell products because......the product happens contain PTFE.  A lot of "wheel waxes" out there use PTFE due to it being able to withstand some pretty insane temps and because dirt washes off nice and easy.  The word ceramic is used because those products are heat flashed with solvents to maintain its liquid state and, after being exposed to oxygen and/or IR light, cure to form a crystalline structure...meaning they're ceramic.  Nano IS a bit of a buzzword with no true meaning, much like "cloud" in IT, but there aren't any other real short, snazzy words out there to describe what it does - most "nano" paint coatings are ceramic: the terms can be used interchangeably.

 

Bust on it all you want, but when Adam's Ultimate Ceramic Silica Nano Super Sealant comes out, I'm sure the tune will change very quick.  To not have any "nano" products in the works is to ignore a very massive market trend.  The folks at Adam's are well aware of this I'm sure and I have a hunch it won't be long before the first Adam's Nano product hits the shelves...

Great post and clarification, the only add is NANO is a reference to is a reference to particle size, Basically making them small enough not to introduce marring & bond\level the protectant.

[Antv20]

Not trying to knock a product, but I am used some of DP's stuff BEFORE I found Adam's.....needless to say Adam's are the only products I will buy now.

[LFairbanks]

There's more to it than that.  But those are some things we consider.  Not to mention Dylan is a picky bastard, lol, and feels like his personal name is on every bottle of product that ships out of the warehouse.  He takes a huuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuge amount of ownership in how product works.  Just bare that in mind.  And he DOESN'T LIKE "2nd place" at all......

 

Nothing wrong with that IMO.

[teamcrossworks]

.....needless to say Adam's are the only products I will buy now.

 

Except for some Sonax wheel cleaner (bought a lot before Adam's Deep Wheel Cleaner was available) I only use Adams products ...and feel happy about it!

 

Dylan, PLEASE chime in and comment on this "new technology". Is there any difference? Is this something Adams may offer in the future? I'll continue to use QS but I am curious...

Edited October 5, 2013 by teamcrossworks

[ForceofWill]

Been a couple threads about Nano coatings and Adam's.  AFAIK they're not coming out with one any time soon but I'm sure they're always experimenting with them.

 

I've used them before, in fact I still have some 22PLE Pro which ISN'T CHEAP!!  And I'd like to address something people don't seem to grasp about them.

 

Advertising coatings as "Permanent" or as lasting for years etc sounds great and all but these coatings DO NOT prevent swirling and the like.  They're pretty much like a sealant that lasts longer.  The problem I ran into is that, ya sure it's still on there and beads but I'm OCD about my car and even minor swirls/marks in the paint I want to correct to perfect.

 

Unfortunately since I DRIVE my cars, the rate at which I need to correct my paint makes these Nano Coatings an expensive moot point.  22PLE is a giant PITA to put on compared to a sealant and it's actually one of the easier coatings to apply.   To me, the look and beading/sheeting is equivalent to MSS and QS.  So it doesn't matter to me if I can get 2 years out of it since it will still swirl and mark up and I'm going to need to correct it more often than that.  Which is why I went back to QS and MSS.  It's 10x easier to apply and they BOTH still last longer than my polishing time frames.

 

My opinion on the matter, take it how you wish.

[teamcrossworks]

Tom,

 

I appreciate yours and everyone else's "opinion".

 

I was talking for the wheels only but still informative...

[goheels]

Well, I would be interested if Adams offered a nano coating. I don't really worry about introducing swirls on my daily drivers through using proper techniques... Would love for the sealants to last longer than 6 months, as I have less time these days to do full details on my cars in a frequent basis.

[compudiva]

Hmmm, gotta try the sealant on the wheels tomorrow.

[Ricky Bobby]

Well, I would be interested if Adams offered a nano coating. I don't really worry about introducing swirls on my daily drivers through using proper techniques... Would love for the sealants to last longer than 6 months, as I have less time these days to do full details on my cars in a frequent basis.

 

It's not in the Adam's regimen/mantra as their company product line is more for the weekend warrior/detail enthusiast who enjoys polishing yearly and wax/sealing 2-3 times a year or more.  The most durable is probably the Liquid Paint Sealant or Quick Sealant which prob has about a 6-7 month longevity on the long end.

 

If you want something that's going to last years then you'll have to look into something like Opti-Coat 2.0 and just use Adam's products to maintain the coating, but I don't see Adam coming out with their own coating in the future.

 

For wheels, out of the entire line Quick Sealant is going to be your best bet because of the durability factor, some report a few months longevity or more on wheels.