keev14 Posted February 16, 2014 Share Posted February 16, 2014 Ok need alittle help. I am not normally cheap when it come's to my car products. All I use is adams. I bought all the polishing pads and have all the wax's. My issue. I went to harbor frieght and bought a chicago platinum polisher. variable speed etc. My ? is when I am using it.and put any pressure down the pad stop. I take I, am getting what I paid for? Does the porter cable 7424 do this ? thx for any replies. I am assuming i wasted 59.99! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 LFairbanks Posted February 16, 2014 Share Posted February 16, 2014 (edited) Harbor Freight??? That is your problem right there. No offense. I have a huge amount of tools for all kinds of jobs, whether it be home improvement or automotive. You get what you pay for. I have never had the Porter Cable bog down. Return the one from Harbor Freight. Edited February 16, 2014 by LFairbanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 keev14 Posted February 16, 2014 Author Share Posted February 16, 2014 I knew it was a mistake. Going to order a P.c 7424. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 HydroBlueJK Posted February 16, 2014 Share Posted February 16, 2014 Honestly it's not a bad polisher,tjays the first polisher I bought (now I have a flex).. Mine didn't stop tho mine worked just as good as the PC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 BKazzle Posted February 16, 2014 Share Posted February 16, 2014 (edited) The Chicago Freight polisher is more powerful, but will bog down if you apply too much pressure or don't navigate a curve on a body panel correctly and so does the Porter Cable. I bought it out of curiosity and it works fine. Change the backing plate though. Edit: If you're going to order a PC instead, then you might as well skip it and order a GG6. Edited February 16, 2014 by BKazzle Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 keev14 Posted February 16, 2014 Author Share Posted February 16, 2014 I just ordered the P.c 7424 off thompson racing for 103.00 free ship. You say the P.c will stop if I put down to much pressure ? the chicago platinum stops very quick. ??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 LFairbanks Posted February 16, 2014 Share Posted February 16, 2014 (edited) Harbor Freight??? That is your problem right there. No offense. I have a huge amount of tools for all kinds of jobs, whether it be home improvement or automotive. You get what you pay for. I have never had the Porter Cable bog down. Return the one from Harbor Freight. The Chicago Freight polisher is more powerful, but will bog down if you apply too much pressure or don't navigate a curve on a body panel correctly and so does the Porter Cable. I bought it out of curiosity and it works fine. Change the backing plate though. Edit: If you're going to order a PC instead, then you might as well skip it and order a GG6. I just ordered the P.c 7424 off thompson racing for 103.00 free ship. You say the P.c will stop if I put down to much pressure ? the chicago platinum stops very quick. ??? Keev, that is exactly what I was going to rephrase. I have never had the PC stop from pressure. It does slow down which is normal. But I have never had it completely stop. I personally won't even go into that store. Been in there once to just see what everybody was talking about. IMO the stuff they sell is garbage. Edited February 16, 2014 by LFairbanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 kalkhaffaf Posted February 16, 2014 Share Posted February 16, 2014 There are two types of DA polishers, one with free / not engaged center rotation gear which is safe for beginners, whenever you put pressure on it, will stop rotating to protect the paint from overheating and burning, but the orbital motion will continue Second type is the direct drive (engaged gear) like the FLEX, it’s so powerful and giving good and fast results but you need to be careful to keep moving the polishing machine in a steady motion especially while using the heavy polish or compound Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 keev14 Posted February 16, 2014 Author Share Posted February 16, 2014 Good. I dont have any severe swirls to correct. But want something that will keep working while I, use it. The Chicago polisher will stop by hand and or with any little pressure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 keev14 Posted February 16, 2014 Author Share Posted February 16, 2014 (edited) Which of these two is the P.c 7424? Edited February 16, 2014 by keev14 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 keev14 Posted February 16, 2014 Author Share Posted February 16, 2014 Lfairbanks, 100% agree on the H.f power tools. Their pittsburgh hands are good quality for the price. Suppose to be 50's here a couple days next week, Would love to get out in the garage and try out the new P.c. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 kalkhaffaf Posted February 16, 2014 Share Posted February 16, 2014 I did not use the PC (Porter Cable) polishing machine so i do not know if it's of type one or two but defiantly its DA (Dual Action) The FLEX is DA and direct drive, it will never stop under any pressure Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 LFairbanks Posted February 16, 2014 Share Posted February 16, 2014 I have never had the Porter Cable stop and have had it for several years. I also have the Flex, which I like even more so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 LFairbanks Posted February 16, 2014 Share Posted February 16, 2014 There are two types of DA polishers, one with free / not engaged center rotation gear which is safe for beginners, whenever you put pressure on it, will stop rotating to protect the paint from overheating and burning, but the orbital motion will continue Second type is the direct drive (engaged gear) like the FLEX, it’s so powerful and giving good and fast results but you need to be careful to keep moving the polishing machine in a steady motion especially while using the heavy polish or compound I guess the junk tools are safe for beginners if that is the case. I honestly can't see where people can screw anything up with the Flex or PC as long as there is some common sense involved. THE Mook 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 BKazzle Posted February 16, 2014 Share Posted February 16, 2014 Keev, that is exactly what I was going to rephrase. I have never had the PC stop from pressure. It does slow down which is normal. But I have never had it completely stop. I personally won't even go into that store. Been in there once to just see what everybody was talking about. IMO the stuff they sell is garbage. The PC should stop if pressure is applied too much. Obviously if you're experienced enough you won't have this issue, but it can still happen. I'm surprised you've never noticed yours doing this. Even the Rupes lineup does the same thing, but no pressure is need whatsoever with those. I personally think there was no reason to buy the PC over the HF polisher, but if someone wants a better one for around the same price then they should go after the GG6. Way better than both and you get a lifetime warranty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 keev14 Posted February 16, 2014 Author Share Posted February 16, 2014 One more ?. I ordered my P.c 7424. Do i have to order the adams backing plate? I am only assuming that it comes with one with the velcro? thx for any replies Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Beemer Posted February 16, 2014 Share Posted February 16, 2014 Yes. You have to get the Adam's backing plate. Get the 4" plate as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 keev14 Posted February 16, 2014 Author Share Posted February 16, 2014 wont work without it I am assuming? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 mdolandese Posted February 16, 2014 Share Posted February 16, 2014 That is correct. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 DaveVY Posted February 16, 2014 Share Posted February 16, 2014 (edited) In this discussion about pressure making the PC stop - I have never had my PC 7424 stop its oscillation movement, but with with unbalanced light pressure or heavy straight pressure or just grabbing it with your hand you can make the rotation stop. The Flex will never stop the oscillation and will never stop the rotation. In addition the Flex also has a long throw in its oscillation, about twice as long. Edited February 16, 2014 by DaveVY Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Chris@Adams Posted February 17, 2014 Share Posted February 17, 2014 If you put a lot of pressure on the PC it will stop spinning but it will still oscillate. LFairbanks 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 mc2hill Posted February 17, 2014 Share Posted February 17, 2014 Which of these two is the P.c 7424? Porter Cable 7424 is free spinning - you can hold the pad with your hand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 PHILLIE PHANATIC Posted February 17, 2014 Share Posted February 17, 2014 You will be just fine with the H/F polisher, your not starting a detailing business. If you watch the Adams videos the P/C will stop with to much pressure, they are made to do this so you don't damage your finish. I have a P/C , that I use with my 7" Adams pads, and I purchased the H/F for my 4" Adams pads ( saves a lot of time not having to switch back and forth). I purchased the H/F on sale for $54.99 plus I had a 20% off coupon, so I only paid around $42.00 for it. I couldn't pass that up for what I'm using it for. My black Vette is a weekend driver, I'm not a professional detailer, but I do get a lot of compliments on how it looks ( thanks to Adams Products ). Have fun detailing, it's very rewarding. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 keev14 Posted February 17, 2014 Author Share Posted February 17, 2014 I will have both myself now. Can go wrong with both I guess. You get the 4 inch backing plate from H/F? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 jimboman Posted February 17, 2014 Share Posted February 17, 2014 I used the HF D/A a handful of times and it is fine. I did get the Adams backing plate for it as the one it came with was fairly wobbly. I am currently using their blue pads, but this detail season (if there is one- due to water shortages in CA) may upgrade pads as well. The PC will typically not include a backing plate, so you'll need to pick one up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 keev14 Posted February 17, 2014 Author Share Posted February 17, 2014 I ordered it also (backing plate adams) It was an expense weekend spent 200.00!!! but 14% on both order's and free ship. Ordered a bunch stocked up. I am good for a while. !!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Ok need alittle help. I am not normally cheap when it come's to my car products.
All I use is adams.
I bought all the polishing pads and have all the wax's.
My issue. I went to harbor frieght and bought a chicago platinum polisher. variable speed etc.
My ? is when I am using it.and put any pressure down the pad stop. I take I, am getting what I paid for?
Does the porter cable 7424 do this ? thx for any replies. I am assuming i wasted 59.99!
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