sahls01gmc Posted March 16, 2016 Share Posted March 16, 2016 Let's say I had $100 to spend on wax. I could either buy (2) Americana 6oz tubs or (1) Patriot 12oz tub. Which should I buy and why? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Ricky Bobby Posted March 16, 2016 Share Posted March 16, 2016 (edited) Um I'd go with Patriot for $100 - you'll have enough to wax your truck every 2 months for 3 years Plus with the sale its discounted Edited March 16, 2016 by Ricky Bobby Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Kingsford Posted March 16, 2016 Share Posted March 16, 2016 Same price ether way. Patriot has more of a shine (or at least it used to) not sure if thats changed with the reformulation of Americana but I hear Americana is more comparable now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Chris@Adams Posted March 16, 2016 Share Posted March 16, 2016 Both the Americana & Patriot are fine waxes that both shine like crazy. The Patriot wax is made from the most premium, purest, Brazilian carnauba wax.....so the better the grade of carnauba will give you better shine and performance but it will also cost more. Like I said both are great waxes! Kourtney@Adams 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 sahls01gmc Posted March 16, 2016 Author Share Posted March 16, 2016 Thanks Everyone! My point is, they are both the same price per ounce. So why would I choose one over the other? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Dan@Adams Posted March 16, 2016 Share Posted March 16, 2016 The new Americana formula is easier to apply and remove, so it is similar to Patriot Wax in that respect. Patriot Wax is still our highest shine, premium paste wax, with a higher percentage of Brazilian carnauba and Montan wax that provide a higher level of gloss. Without getting into specific percentages since that is proprietary information, the new Americana has a good amount of polymer resin in it for more durability than Patriot, closer to the durability of a sealant. Yes, the price per ounce is now the same if you bought 2 containers of Americana vs. 1 container of Patriot. The old formula Americana was priced at $69.99 and took more effort to remove if you let the wax haze up for too long, both of which made people hesitant to try it. We listened to customer feedback - we've now improved the formula and ease of use of Americana, reduced the size (still plenty to do a LOT of vehicles), put it in a much higher quality container that should not have the lid-opening issues of the old container, and then dropped the price by $20 to make it a more friendly price for someone that may not want to justify spending $70-$100 on a premium paste wax for their daily driver Chris@Adams, JohnnyDev and b_pappy 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 James__ Posted March 16, 2016 Share Posted March 16, 2016 Basically, for outstanding, superior level of shine but only moderate longetivity - go with Patriot. For longer lasting protection and only slightly less shine, go with Americana. Adam 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 sahls01gmc Posted March 16, 2016 Author Share Posted March 16, 2016 Geez Dan, you could have just said "Buy the Americana since you have 3 daily drivers..." That all makes perfect sense. I realize that Patriot has it's place, and since I don't have any show cars, the Americana would provide the shine and durability I'm looking for. I was just curious as to the same price per ounce, but the difference is in the application. Thanks again to everyone! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Adam Posted March 16, 2016 Share Posted March 16, 2016 This is a great thread, and the difference needs to be stated, especially with the new Americana, which was launched today! Here's how I decide what Paste Wax to use: Looking for amazing shine, only, on a finish that doesn't see many elements? Patriot. Looking for good shine, and great protection on something I drive often? Americana. Both are now easy to use. If I was shopping for wax on a budget, and was only waxing my daily driven hot rod, I'd choose the Americana. Big bang for the buck. My $0.02. You won't be dissatisfied with either, and on my winter beater, I don't use either, stick with the Paint Sealant! JohnnyDev, rkj4243, Antv20 and 4 others 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Ricky Bobby Posted March 16, 2016 Share Posted March 16, 2016 ^i love when El Jefe drops knowledge and his 2 pennies. Great job on the improvements to Americanas application, longevity, and price point. Truly makes wax a tiered product category for Adam's Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 pirahnah3 Posted March 17, 2016 Share Posted March 17, 2016 Good to hear the differences in the products, sounds like I will be stalking the tent at all Chryslers to see the Americana in action. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 redneck08sierra Posted March 17, 2016 Share Posted March 17, 2016 who is this Adam dude and what does he know, ha!!!??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 chops1sc Posted March 17, 2016 Share Posted March 17, 2016 I hate to thread-jack, but I have a quick question. I recently bought the old Americana in the big can. What opening issues were people having with it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Dan@Adams Posted March 17, 2016 Share Posted March 17, 2016 I hate to thread-jack, but I have a quick question. I recently bought the old Americana in the big can. What opening issues were people having with it? The lid on the old container can sometimes form a slight vacuum that distorts the plastic a little bit, requiring more muscles to open. With mine, I will spin the lid on until it is tight, then I will unscrew it about a half-inch turn so that it's still sealed up but easier to unscrew for the next use. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Kingsford Posted March 17, 2016 Share Posted March 17, 2016 I hate to thread-jack, but I have a quick question. I recently bought the old Americana in the big can. What opening issues were people having with it? Oh let me tell you the struggles of the old jar. Me and the old jar went all sorts of rounds whenever I'd try to use it. I had to go as far as prying it open with a screw driver, which ultimately lead to the demise of the lid. chops1sc 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 LT1xL82 Posted March 17, 2016 Share Posted March 17, 2016 (edited) The srew driver was the wrong tool. You're supposed to use a BIGGER HAMMER! Here. hold my beer and watch this! Edited March 17, 2016 by LT1xL82 Captain Slow and mc2hill 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 sahls01gmc Posted March 17, 2016 Author Share Posted March 17, 2016 For those of you with the issues, did you also store yours in the fridge? Wonder if that is what caused the vacuum seal? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Ricky Bobby Posted March 17, 2016 Share Posted March 17, 2016 Alright I got my tin of Americana today. Impressions as to the unused product: Packaging- A+ - this will NOT warp, very sturdy container and lid. Extra points to the Adams team to use a separator in the container with the directions on it in between the wax and the applicator! Scent and color- excellent! I think all will love it. I assume we still recommend not storing the applicator in the container if stored in the fridge correct? Or in general for that matter? Looking forward to using the new "easy on and easy off" formula! Dan@Adams and TheWolf 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 TheWolf Posted March 18, 2016 Share Posted March 18, 2016 The New Americana Paste Wax is super shiny! kfxjc, Ricky Bobby, blcksilv08 and 4 others 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Ricky Bobby Posted March 18, 2016 Share Posted March 18, 2016 Is the application easy on and easy off like butter now Wolf? I havent used it but did a beta test a year ago on one of the first improved formulas and it was much easier to use then. Original formula wasn't bad per se, but you had to work quick. Apply thin to 1-2 panels, go back immediately and remove. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 TheWolf Posted March 18, 2016 Share Posted March 18, 2016 Is the application easy on and easy off like butter now Wolf? I havent used it but did a beta test a year ago on one of the first improved formulas and it was much easier to use then. Original formula wasn't bad per se, but you had to work quick. Apply thin to 1-2 panels, go back immediately and remove. Very easy. I applied it to the whole truck before wiping any off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Ricky Bobby Posted March 18, 2016 Share Posted March 18, 2016 ^^That is what I am talking about. Basically has the application ease of Paint Sealant but a bit of extra dripping shine from Nuba. Awesome, I can't wait to use it. You still are not storing your applicator in the tin are you? I'm especially impressed at how well the applicator fits. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 TheWolf Posted March 18, 2016 Share Posted March 18, 2016 ^^That is what I am talking about. Basically has the application ease of Paint Sealant but a bit of extra dripping shine from Nuba. Awesome, I can't wait to use it. You still are not storing your applicator in the tin are you? I'm especially impressed at how well the applicator fits. No, I never store the applicator in the container. It gets washed, air dried for a few days on the rack, then into a plastic bin for storage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Ricky Bobby Posted March 18, 2016 Share Posted March 18, 2016 Me as well. This new Americana will actually get me using paste wax again as a maintenance layer of protection in between LPS and H2o sessions. TheWolf 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Chris@Adams Posted March 18, 2016 Share Posted March 18, 2016 Guys I am really liking the New Americana, it goes on easy & off easy with a GREAT shine! TheWolf and Dan@Adams 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 chops1sc Posted March 19, 2016 Share Posted March 19, 2016 No, I never store the applicator in the container. It gets washed, air dried for a few days on the rack, then into a plastic bin for storage. I bought the red hex applicator along with my "old" can of Americana. I'm going to use it this weekend on a truck I'm detailing for a co-worker. TheWolf 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Let's say I had $100 to spend on wax. I could either buy (2) Americana 6oz tubs or (1) Patriot 12oz tub.
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