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The Junkman Says, "Maximize the Power of SHR"


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That's Swirl and Haze Remover for those who get lost in the acronyms!

 

One thing that I know about wet sanding and polishing is that you actually must do damage to the finish in order to undo damage already in the finish. Now read that 3 times and let it soak in. I'm about to lay some revelation on ya'. ;)

 

Here's the deal. When wet sanding, you must shave layers of clear coat off the car in order to get down to the real nasty scratches. Swirls usually don't go as deep as a nasty scratch so they usually don't require wet sanding. Another thing about wet sanding is that you must undo the damage that you have done with one grit of sandpaper, using a lesser grit. This same process can be used when removing swirls and scratches with a compound such as Adam's Swirl and Haze Remover (SHR).

 

Looks like it may need to be repainted, right?

 

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You'd be wrong!

 

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So what's the trick? The trick is maximizing the potential of the Adams products that you already have. You know that you are to use the SHR along with the Second Generation Swirl Killer Pad. However, this should only be used in conditions where the swirls and scratches are really bad. Bad as in the first time you ever began to detail your car's paint correctly. What if you have acquired a couple of light swirls after getting your paint in immaculate condition? This is a prime opportunity to use a little non-conventional thinking.

 

Using SHR on a Second Generation Polishing Pad reduces the some of the effectiveness of SHR. The term I use is "gritnicity" (pronounced "grit nis' sit tee"... don't bother looking it up, it's one of my Junkman terms :o). The gritnicity of SHR changes depending on which pad you use it on because the pad is part of the cutting (or cleaning) process. Since the gritnicity of SHR always remains the same, you change the gritnicity by using it on a different pad. I do this when I want to take care of a light scratch or swirls. There is no need to go at a light amount of damage using the brute force of a dry orange pad and some SHR (or the BFG as you gamers call it lol.gif ). You can dilute the gritnicity of SHR even more by using it on the Second Generation Wax Pad. This would be ideal for situation where the only damage is streaks due to wiping the car down while dusty and causing those hairline streaks. Again, there's no need to break out the gorilla when a poodle will do.

 

So what do we have here? We have just created a way to adjust the effectiveness of SHR times 3. But you don't have to stop there. The orange pad when used dry (and by dry I mean using it with only the SHR on it and no detail spray) has some serious cutting power. If you dampen the pad by using some Adam's Detail Spray, you are at that point changing the characteristics of the SHR itself by making it more liquid. The more detail spray, the more liquid SHR becomes. Now you have the cutting power that is somewhere between a dry orange pad and a dry white pad. This same technique can be used on the white and black pads too. All of a sudden you now have in your arsenal, 6 different levels of SHR (2 variations per pad). This ability to step down the damage that is done with the previous pad/compound combination is the way I undo the damage that you saw in the pictures above.

 

One rule that I follow is not to mix products on the same pad. In some instances, this is okay to do with Adam's products. However as a rule of thumb, I like having a different pad for all my products. If I use SHR on a black pad, I'm not going to use that pad to apply wax unless I wash it out really good. Usually, that pad will only be used for SHR applications and I'll get different black pad for wax.

 

With practice, you will be able to tell not only which pad to use the SHR on, but also how wet if necessary you want that pad. This takes a little practice so gather up all you buddy's cars and go at it. Sometimes, I might want to start with a wet white pad, instead of going with a dry white pad. It totally depends on the damage that I am looking at. Again, this takes practice in order to look at damage and then know where to start. I have a bevy of non-car washing friends so a practice palette is easy for me to find. Who knows, you may have a candidate sitting in your very own garage. :drool:

 

 

The Junkman

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Nice shoes. smiley-dance001.gif

 

 

AJ...how long you been working for Adam??? :lol:

 

You leave my Earnhardt slippers alone Teresa! As for working for Adam's, I don't know yet. My paycheck hasn't arrived! :lolsmack:

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Me and a buddy watched your "wet sanding 101" videos on youtube while at work...and i must say not only are they very informative but entertaining as well! :cheers:

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Me and a buddy watched your "wet sanding 101" videos on youtube while at work...and i must say not only are they very informative but entertaining as well! :cheers:

 

I'm goofy like that in real life too! :)

 

You're my hero AJ. :thumbsup:

 

With a black car, you should be real familiar with this Rich! :thumbsup:

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Junkman:glasses:I'll be heading down for the 15th anniversary at the NCM this year,we will have to hook up for dinner:cheers:

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Junkman:glasses:I'll be heading down for the 15th anniversary at the NCM this year,we will have to hook up for dinner:cheers:

 

It's on! I'm supposed to meet up with quite a few folks. The more the merrier! Look forward to finally meeting. :thumbsup:

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And I thought I was just going to get all my stuff and start going at it, now I'm all confuzzled...I wish I could have someone around here to show me examples.

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And I thought I was just going to get all my stuff and start going at it, now I'm all confuzzled...I wish I could have someone around here to show me examples.

 

Haven't you looked at any of Adam's videos? I have posted some too. Have you seen any?

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Haha yea I've watched all the videos. I was just meaning about trying to judge how much pressure and which one of the "6" polishing pads to use.

 

On a setting of 5, I would normally use 9 - 13 pounds of pressure. The best way to figure out how much pressure that is would be to place the polisher on a scale and press down until you see the desired numbers. Any more than that and you start to slow down the pad too much. On a higher setting, you can use a more pressure.

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You leave my Earnhardt slippers alone Teresa! As for working for Adam's, I don't know yet. My paycheck hasn't arrived! :lolsmack:

Just keep doing write-ups like this one Junkman! You are incredible my friend, thorough, and just excellent!:thumbsup::thumbsup:

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And I thought I was just going to get all my stuff and start going at it, now I'm all confuzzled...I wish I could have someone around here to show me examples.

 

I'll come out to Boise before long my friend, and will post before coming! :D

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Just keep doing write-ups like this one Junkman! You are incredible my friend, thorough, and just excellent!:thumbsup::thumbsup:

 

Thanks Adam, glad I could help! :2thumbs:

 

I'll come out to Boise before long my friend, and will post before coming! :D

 

Let's see if you can get an offer like that anywhere else! :banana:

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Yea I know what you mean!

 

Seattle/Portland would work too, but I realize you were just in Vancouver. I bet I could round up at least 20-30 cars/trucks if you came to Boise.

 

So Adam how do you get all these supplies with you? I take it you must fly to all of these clinics? I mean CO to WA is like a 18 hour drive?

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Great writeup Junkman! I learned a thing or two, which is rare... :lol:

 

I have some wet sanding to do on a friend's truck, I was going to go the conventional route, but I think I will give this a try instead. Thanks! :pc:

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Great writeup Junkman! I learned a thing or two, which is rare... :lol:

 

I have some wet sanding to do on a friend's truck, I was going to go the conventional route, but I think I will give this a try instead. Thanks! :pc:

 

Keep in mind that I use this method to reduce the damage that is done from wet sanding. I like to step the damage down somewhat from that which is done from using a dry orange pad and SHR. I use to do this with another product but you had to buy a bottle of each step of the compounds. My mission using SHR is to have the paint as flawless as possible before I actually began the waxing process. That way, the wax doesn't have to "mask" any imperfections in the paint. This results in more "pop" in the final appearance.

 

I always test an area with a compound before I go the wet sanding route. Better to compound than wet sand any day. If I can get to the scratch with SHR, I'm definitely going that route. :thumbsup:

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Great write up!

 

 

I do have a question though.

My black Z06 was a rebuild wrecked car. I know it will never be a 'garage queen' and I don't want that anyway. Looking at the paint/clearcoat closely I can see that the car was not painted in the cleanest of conditions. There are imperfections, ie trash,dust etc. whatever in the clear. If I was to go back and wet sand the whole car can those imperfections be taken out? Without doing any 'damage'

 

The only thing I've done to the paint on this car, and I've had it nearly 2 years now, was last week I attending my first meeting of a newly formed Corvette club and I washed the car and wiped it down with some Detail Spray and then applied some BSG and wiped in down again. I could not believe the difference just doing that made. The guy I bought the car from even made a comment about it.

 

When I get the time I'll be doing the whole car, but right now I don't know if I should go as far as wet sanding or just start with the orange pad and SHR.

 

Later,

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... When I get the time I'll be doing the whole car, but right now I don't know if I should go as far as wet sanding or just start with the orange pad and SHR.

 

NEITHER!

 

The very first thing you should do is CLAYBAR the entire car. Claybarring is what we do to remove those imperfections from the paint. Wet sanding is a dangerous route to go, especially if you have never done it. I highly recommend against it unless you know exactly what you are doing. I do wet sand really deep scratches out of a car's finish but I've had a lot of practice at it.

 

Once you get through claybarring the paint, your paint should feel baby butt smooth. It is at that point that you want to break out some SHR. Have you ever clayed before?

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Sorry I forgot about the claybar step.... I worked one weekend out in California on my semi truck, (see pictures in my album), I only got the cab and hood done doing claybar, orange pad w/SHR then orange pad w/FMP then white pad w/FMP then black pad w/MSW. I'm not looking foward to doing the sleeper there are some serious swirl marks there.

I'll forget about the wet sanding on the Vette and start with the claybar then the orange pad etc. and I'll be happy with the results, I'm sure.

 

Again thanks for taking the time Junkman!

 

Later,

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