Dark car...Buttery, Americana, Patriot or Ceramic Paste Wax?

[falcaineer]

I know opinions will vary, but if you've used any, or better yet, compared any of the four on a dark-colored Garage Queen (specifically), what's your preference? Why? Main goal is show car look. Assume full correction already done...

Edited September 14, 2018 by falcaineer
Made color more generic to "dark" vs. "black"

[imatt27]

I have a black car. And so far I’ve used buttery, Americana, and ceramic wax. And my favorite overall has been the Americana. For ease of use and shine. I think the ceramic lasted longer but was harder to remove. And I had a very difficult time with the buttery wax. 

[pirahnah3]

Honestly, to me it depends on when you are waxing and what the show prep might be. If your looking to spend the time and keep the car looking good going over it all the time, honestly Buttery is a good option (As Adam said in WC#3). I can certainly see Americana being a great option for it for its durability if you dont want to be out there all the time. Ceramic will be great but harder to remove and not quite sure what your prep would turn into based on its SIO2 content. 

 

Questions on prep for the car, 

Are you going to do show wipe downs? If so with what product? 

Do you drive the car alot? 

Does it live inside or ourside? 

[tlbullet]

I have a black and a white car.  Both are CC. 

 I used CPW for the first time last night.   I had NO issues with the removal.  Pirahnah and other members have mentioned that cpw is much harder to remove.   I found it easy to use!   Also leaves both my cars with a nice shine!  

[falcaineer]

36 minutes ago, pirahnah3 said:

Honestly, to me it depends on when you are waxing and what the show prep might be. If your looking to spend the time and keep the car looking good going over it all the time, honestly Buttery is a good option (As Adam said in WC#3). I can certainly see Americana being a great option for it for its durability if you dont want to be out there all the time. Ceramic will be great but harder to remove and not quite sure what your prep would turn into based on its SIO2 content. 

 

Questions on prep for the car, 

Are you going to do show wipe downs? If so with what product? 

Do you drive the car alot? 

Does it live inside or ourside? 

 

Good questions, Jim.  And I should've been more specific that this is for a potential customer, so while I've talked to him a bit, the answers are a little bit of a guess. The plan is to do a full correction and then add the protection layer(s). I don't yet know if he wants maintenance washes/waxes, nor what he has on hand for wipedowns, etc. I do know the car will likely only be driven in good weather (no rain, snow, etc), and be kept in the garage full time otherwise. Note the CO sun can be brutal, and since the car is black, surface temps can/will rise quickly. 

 

His main goal is to make/keep the car looking super shiny with lasting protectionl, but he doesn't plan to have it for long, maybe a year or so. He originally wanted a coating, but after we talked, it didn't seem like the most cost effective way forward (understandably). Ive explained sealants, as well, but I know for the depth of shine, nothing beats a good wax. Bottom line, I'm trying to help guide him with the options, but will leave the decision to him on which product(s) I use. The only wax I don't have immediate access to is the Ceramic, but it may be the one he chooses. I just want to be better informed to help him understand the potential outcomes, cost/benefit, etc.

Edited September 14, 2018 by falcaineer

[pirahnah3]

Based on Customers car, Id start with discussing some pricing differential, and if they are not coming back all the time for maint cleaning then I would offer 2 options, one being the Americana great coating longevity and all that. You can always step that up to the Ceramic wax and talk about its potential longer life and SIO2 content. 

[mc2hill]

Brilliant Glaze, topped with Americana.  I use this combo for all the show cars and garage queens I do.  Great shine, and decent longevity when stored.

[RayS]

@mc2hill notd Brilliant Glaze and then provided a picture of a beautiful Chevelle, plus two more Red cars in the background...  Thanks.

 

With Buttery, I applied Brilliant Glaze under it and then two days later added BG on top as an experiment and it was beyond Wow since it was a driveway car.  I would imagine with a garage queen, BG under America and then maybe BG on top would look amazing and last more than a few days.  The question becomes maintenance since the extra pop would not last very long, but you could sell them a bottle of BG or DS for maintenance until it is ready for a full detail again.

[Rich]

When I had the black Vette, it was Revive and BG, and Americana or Buttery Wax.  Amazing results. 

I'm a huge fan of the Ceramic Wax on my cars now, but both my rides are light now.

 

[falcaineer]

Can I layer PS then CPW? 

[pirahnah3]

dont see why not.