2009 Pathfinder?

[estecoca]

hey all, I am in the market for an SUV and my wife really likes the Pathfinder. Im curious if you all have any experience with them good/bad. anything I should look out for?

 

any input is appreciated!

[Bill-V8V]

Any input ????

 

 

Buy American :patriot::patriot:

[11chevz71]

Let me give you some input a nissian pathfinder they are nice but here are the factors. they cost txice as much as a domestic vechile. They get bad gas milage. You might here some people say that the re-sale is better than a domestic. but the fact is it should be because your paying twice as much for it. then some people say that they last longer. in my opion it just depends. So i am going to give a comparison with what i know about and that is trucks. A person i know just bought a Honda ridgeline and i know he payed a good thiry thousand with a trade in. He get 16/22 in gas milage. it has a v6 with a little grocery hauler bed on it. has 16 inch rims and is a four door. Now to put in my dads truck it is a 2004 silverado and he payed way less for it than the ridge line. he get between 16-18 city and we have gotton almost 24 highway. He has a 5.3 liter v8. can hold 5 people like the ridgeline but it also has a 6.5 ft on it so you can haul whatever you would like. It has 17 inch tires on it the ridgeline only and 16inch. the gear ratio in the back is 3.73 which gets a lot of torqe to the ground. it also has the z71 package with gets you skidplates and such. so i asked you this would you get a Rideline(Pathfinder) or would you rather by the Domestic (SUV) and get better of everything for half the money and the same warrenty.

[11chevz71]

and i just wanted say something else is now is not the time to buy a car. Wait a little bit. Wait to the 2010 start coming out.

[Superdutytd]

Well I for one am going to say buy American also. It is a free country though and at least the older pathfinders seemed to last a while and get OK mileage. I would go check out some of newer offerings from Ford/Chevy/Chrysler. It's a perfect time to buy a car as many car places are struggling and you can find some insane deals. By this time next year car prices might be heading up!

[11chevz71]

Well I for one am going to say buy American also. It is a free country though and at least the older pathfinders seemed to last a while and get OK mileage. I would go check out some of newer offerings from Ford/Chevy/Chrysler. It's a perfect time to buy a car as many car places are struggling and you can find some insane deals. By this time next year car prices might be heading up!

 

 

IN mine opion they are horrible. they are cutting back inventory so if you want to get a certain car you are going to pay for it.

[Superdutytd]

I 40,300 for my 08 superduty. It listed for 54,000. If you are paying full price for something in this economy it had better be a ZR1.

[estecoca]

well, I know that this forum has a definite slant towards American products. and thats cool, i understand. but here is my personal experience. in 2001 i got a new Tacoma and my dad and brother each got new Silverados (my bro got the z71). in the four years that I had that Tacoma I had zero problems with it. in fact, I never did anything other than regular maintenance (oil/filter air filter, transmission fluid replacement, transfer case oil replacement...blah). in that same time span they each had to replace the fly-wheel, brakes and one of them had a transmission service bulleitin they called in. serious issues, comparitively. not to mention that my truck had much less road noise inside the cab than theirs did and got just as good if not better mpgs. oh, and the Tacoma is way better looking than those Chevys IMO.

 

now, I know that GM has stepped-up is game since 2001 and their products (particularly the Silverado/Sierra) are much more impressive. Im certainly willing to consider the Acadia/Traverse for an SUV; that commercial with Howy Long makes some good points (even if Long is a complete tool). In fact, i think I'll go to their site right now and price a Traverse with all the options I have priced in a Pathfinder.

[estecoca]

uh oh, first problem with the Traverse: its a Consumer's Digest Best Buy. I hate the publication. Every time I take their advice i get burned.

[Superdutytd]

I hate consumers digest.

[Bill-V8V]

In fact, i think I'll go to their site right now and price a Traverse with all the options I have priced in a Pathfinder.

 

Now is a great time to buy as dealers are trying to clear inventory to make room for the 2010's. Some models, like the Camaro, will be hitting the showroom floor in the next three weeks. So don't be afraid to price out a fully loaded model, you'll be able to get it for much lower than the MSRP :thumbsup:

[11chevz71]

I 40,300 for my 08 superduty. It listed for 54,000. If you are paying full price for something in this economy it had better be a ZR1.

 

 

I dont know the whole facts but if this is Invoice you got riped. Dealers have what i like to call a KIck back. And i call this the dealers Holy Grail this is basically there money that they will not lose because they wont budge on the price. what this is for every vechile they sell they get a percentage of the msrp back. it is usaully like 10 percent so say on your Ford you payed 40,000 they just made 4,000 without blinking a eye. then on top of that if you do a trade they can make maybe 3,000 on that. then there is another that the companys do with there dealers they say if you sell 200 cars in a time period you get so much money back. So thets firgure this out now this is just roft estimates you pay 40,000 for your truck they made on that one deal 4,000 3,000 and lets say a thousand for saying a number of cars in a month. so they just made 8,000 dollars on one deal. thats not bad at all in my opion. Another that you may have not know is that about every vechile out you pay for it to be advritise for sale just some facts you might not know.

[11chevz71]

well, I know that this forum has a definite slant towards American products. and thats cool, i understand. but here is my personal experience. in 2001 i got a new Tacoma and my dad and brother each got new Silverados (my bro got the z71). in the four years that I had that Tacoma I had zero problems with it. in fact, I never did anything other than regular maintenance (oil/filter air filter, transmission fluid replacement, transfer case oil replacement...blah). in that same time span they each had to replace the fly-wheel, brakes and one of them had a transmission service bulleitin they called in. serious issues, comparitively. not to mention that my truck had much less road noise inside the cab than theirs did and got just as good if not better mpgs. oh, and the Tacoma is way better looking than those Chevys IMO.

 

now, I know that GM has stepped-up is game since 2001 and their products (particularly the Silverado/Sierra) are much more impressive. Im certainly willing to consider the Acadia/Traverse for an SUV; that commercial with Howy Long makes some good points (even if Long is a complete tool). In fact, i think I'll go to their site right now and price a Traverse with all the options I have priced in a Pathfinder.

 

 

you might thinks i am gung ho for chevy but i go for what works for me. the thing is that you can have a lemon out of a bunch of cars. but you dont know who had the car before you if any. you dont know if they take care of it. and lasts of all how they drive the thing. and i think it is bad that a littile tonka truck is getting the same gas milage as a full size pickup. you think what you toyota has and what that chevy has. you are comparing a apple to a orange in my opion. BUt i will say that i just road in a Saturn Outlook that is the same thing as the Acadia/Traverse and i thought it was greta.

[Superdutytd]

I talked to a couple of unbiased salesmen and they all said I got just about as good of a deal as you get. I know how much the dealer paid for the truck and how much I paid for it.I don't listen to that "oh i'll show you the invoice crap" I buy around 8 vehicles a year. Don't try and act like you know anything special about buying vehicles. I didn't trade any vehicles in and I paid cash for the truck. Ford gave me back 7,000 of the total money. Maybe the dealer got the kickback but I don't think so.

[11chevz71]

I talked to a couple of unbiased salesmen and they all said I got just about as good of a deal as you get. I know how much the dealer paid for the truck and how much I paid for it.I don't listen to that "oh i'll show you the invoice crap" I buy around 8 vehicles a year. Don't try and act like you know anything special about buying vehicles. I didn't trade any vehicles in and I paid cash for the truck. Ford gave me back 7,000 of the total money. Maybe the dealer got the kickback but I don't think so.

 

 

Thsi might be in the pasts with the recession in everything now adays. But what i said is true the make more than what you think.

[Superdutytd]

I've only ever heard of this kickback for big dealerships that sell a bunch of cars. But I thought you had to sell that many cars to get it?

[11chevz71]

You will find out sooner or later. The last truck my farther bought was 2007 classic chevy. he traded in his 2004 chevy. And we bought it for 7,000 out the door you want to talk about deals. And the vechile Msrp was 35,000 dollars truck. 7,000 is not bad at all to upgrade three years. And in my opion you dont need to believe me or not the sale peeople do not have a clue what they are making on the car. they have usually one person in a dealer ship that does the pricing in his Bull pen that watches the parking lot.

[Junkman2008]

you might thinks i am gung ho for chevy ...

 

I never got that impression at all...

 

[jjwvette]

Do your homework and you'll do fine with whatever you buy

[mikegeaney]

There are all sorts of various financial incentives that are available to dealerships from the manufacturer(s). Most of the time we, as buyers, see this in "rebates" which are usually given back to the dealership, so to speak, in order to drop the bottom line/selling price. In many cases when a dealer shows you the invoice of a given vehicle the invoice is set as if they had bought just that one specific vehicle an no others. Dealer's have various incentives on the number of vehicles they take in from the manufacturer, how quickly they pay the manufacturer, how many they sell etc. There are incentives in place, commonly refered to as "hold back(s)" that can influence the price a dealer is paying for a given vehicle.

 

It has always cracked me up to hear someone say that they paid under invoice for a vehicle. In general, not always, dealers do not sell a vehicle for less than they paid. Dealerships do not sell items at a loss intentionally such as grocery stores do. This practice is called a loss leader.....get someone in the door with a crazy cheap price, take the loss on a given item, and then make up the loss, and then some, on other items in the shopper's cart. Think about it...if dealers sold @ invoice how would they pay their staff, debt service on their facility, utilities, etc? For me the important thing is that I don't overpay. There is nothing worst than finding out you paid more for something than someone else did. This is where research comes into play.....the internet is your friend.

 

To circle back to the topic my wife had a 2005 Nissan Pathfinder SE. It was a great vehicle. Plenty of room, comfortable, and no problems. It was the first vehicle she ever leased. She changed vehicles on me quickly a few times so I figured we'd negotiate a good price to buy it at the end if she did like it. When the lease was up gas was over $4 per gallon and that Pathfinder returns horrible numbers in the city, 11 mpg, so we turned it in. It actually got great milage on the highway....28 mpg ish. She got a 2009 Subaru Forester as a replacement....which she likes better as it's not too big, gets much better gas milage, and is somewhat "green" with it's PZEV rating.

[Adam]

Esteban, the resale on Nissan vehicles is not as strong as the resale value of Toyota. If you are going to buy one or the other, the Toyota Sequoia or 4Runner will net you a lower cost of ownership. Same thing goes with resale on the Lexus vs. Infinity.

 

If you plan to lease, who cares!

 

My $.02 Esteban.

 

(Toyota's are Made in the USA, which does employ US workers, and support US business and our economy. Nissan may also make vehicles here, I'm not aware.)

[11chevz71]

There are all sorts of various financial incentives that are available to dealerships from the manufacturer(s). Most of the time we, as buyers, see this in "rebates" which are usually given back to the dealership, so to speak, in order to drop the bottom line/selling price. In many cases when a dealer shows you the invoice of a given vehicle the invoice is set as if they had bought just that one specific vehicle an no others. Dealer's have various incentives on the number of vehicles they take in from the manufacturer, how quickly they pay the manufacturer, how many they sell etc. There are incentives in place, commonly refered to as "hold back(s)" that can influence the price a dealer is paying for a given vehicle.

 

It has always cracked me up to hear someone say that they paid under invoice for a vehicle. In general, not always, dealers do not sell a vehicle for less than they paid. Dealerships do not sell items at a loss intentionally such as grocery stores do. This practice is called a loss leader.....get someone in the door with a crazy cheap price, take the loss on a given item, and then make up the loss, and then some, on other items in the shopper's cart. Think about it...if dealers sold @ invoice how would they pay their staff, debt service on their facility, utilities, etc? For me the important thing is that I don't overpay. There is nothing worst than finding out you paid more for something than someone else did. This is where research comes into play.....the internet is your friend.

 

To circle back to the topic my wife had a 2005 Nissan Pathfinder SE. It was a great vehicle. Plenty of room, comfortable, and no problems. It was the first vehicle she ever leased. She changed vehicles on me quickly a few times so I figured we'd negotiate a good price to buy it at the end if she did like it. When the lease was up gas was over $4 per gallon and that Pathfinder returns horrible numbers in the city, 11 mpg, so we turned it in. It actually got great milage on the highway....28 mpg ish. She got a 2009 Subaru Forester as a replacement....which she likes better as it's not too big, gets much better gas milage, and is somewhat "green" with it's PZEV rating.

 

 

Excellent, Post

[11chevz71]

Since People where talking about leasing i just wanted to share a story. My grandmother was going to but a 2005 Cadillac Cts back in 2005 out right for 30,000. But at this dealership they push leasing so we said give us a price. they said for four years it would cost 13,000 something and we said okay. then we check with some other dealership and they said they could not come close to that price. and i was wondering why because you dont get any money off on leases. So we went ahead with the lease at the orginal dealership and here the messed up they put in three years instead of four. So we got the lease for 13,000 instead of 18,000 i believe. So check your number on an estimate on a lease they might make a mistake that you can take advantage of.

[Superdutytd]

Since People where talking about leasing i just wanted to share a story. My grandmother was going to but a 2005 Cadillac Cts back in 2005 out right for 30,000. But at this dealership they push leasing so we said give us a price. they said for four years it would cost 13,000 something and we said okay. then we check with some other dealership and they said they could not come close to that price. and i was wondering why because you dont get any money off on leases. So we went ahead with the lease at the orginal dealership and here the messed up they put in three years instead of four. So we got the lease for 13,000 instead of 18,000 i believe. So check your number on an estimate on a lease they might make a mistake that you can take advantage of.

 

That's awesome

[Loud Pedal]

Lets be honest, in this day in age there really aren't any bad vehicles. It's up to you and what your intrests are. I'm another buy American guy though. :patriot: