Hi everyone! It's good to be back on the forum after a while. I have a problem,....besides keeping my car "too clean". After coming across Junkman and Adam and his products, I've decided, I'm going to become a detailer. Yeah, a professional detailer if you will. Now, I'm not not better than Junkman of course-due to his experience, but after coming across Adams Swirl and Haze remover kit with the Porter Cable 7424, I've achieved GREAT RESULTS, just absolutely amazing, and I seem to be able to work that thing pretty well!
After using the whole setup on my 2010 Camaro SS, I've received a ridiculous amount of compliments as well as "request". I've counted, and I had over 10 people take my number down and bother the hell out of me because they want a full detail of they're cars and trucks, which after review has a great number swirls and haze marks. Nothing really bad like chipped paint, but before I even considered any of the request, I worked on a test vehicle which has some pretty noticeable swirl marks easily identifiable, I did 3 five minute passes with the orange pad and low and behold the swirls were GONE! And when I applied the polish the paint just came alive looked absolutely AMAZING. Brand new; factory brand new. So, it looks like I'm going to be buying tons more washcloths from Adams and a couple of gallons of detail spray as well as more swirl and haze remover.
But to make my long story short..........
Besides finding swirl marks with a light in your garage or a light which shines on the surface of the car,.......how do I go about actually finding swirls? Is there a more "professional" way than using the light on the top of your garage? Like is there a special light I can use on the surface of the car to make the swirls more visible therefore making it easier for me to find and remove? My Camaro looks flawless from just about every angle, and it's a daily driver, but when I put the car into the light and look deeply with one eye open,...I can see not swirls but small not even a centimeter in length infinitesimal "micro-scratches" that's **** near impossible to find. There isn't a special light or anything I can shine on the car to make these things show up better? At night in my garage just isn't cutting it. In the garage I can find swirls, but when I put the car under brighter light out in the yard and get extremely close down at almost face level, I see them. Invisible to everyone else, but visible to me only when I'm that close.
Any suggestions?
ALSO.....anyone have any honest pricing ideas I should offer my customers? I have people calling me out the a**; they want they're car done. And the damage they're paint has, I KNOW I can remove it because I've removed worse. Like what should I charge for a full 2 day detail of washing, drying, claying, swirl and haze remover process, polish,wax, interior and under the hood cleaning? All of that takes TIME. I couldn't even finish my Camaro in one day, I don't know if it's because I'm so thorough, or because to actually remove swirls, it takes TIME, and multiple passes. I see these guys at a local place named Safari charging at least 200.00 dollars for a full detailing including wax using only they're car wash machine which washes the car then applies liquid wax, and other packages they offer have guys out there cleaning and drying cars with torn "rags" and T-shirts, more like cleaning the car with sandpaper. Any pricing ideas for what I would go about charging based on the amount of work I put into each car would be nice. I don't wanna start too low or too high. And for me, hoopti's are out, I don't want to waste my time cleaning them; I only want to cater to people with mercedes, bmws,audis,porches, camaros, classics, vets,chargers, challengers, or basically any car which isn't in "just repaint it" condition. I see too many high price car owners with horrible swirls and different marks,.....it p's me off. Why have a 100,000 dollar car and don't take care of it? I've seen guys with BMW 750LI's, Mercedes, R8s, lambos, and z06 vets and keep they're paint in absolutely bad condition. Kills me.
ANYWAY........
I'd like to thank Junkman for "waking me up" from the matrix to these swirl marks and Adam for having such GREAT products that actually work, and you all who offer me useful information.
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Hi everyone! It's good to be back on the forum after a while. I have a problem,....besides keeping my car "too clean". After coming across Junkman and Adam and his products, I've decided, I'm going to become a detailer. Yeah, a professional detailer if you will. Now, I'm not not better than Junkman of course-due to his experience, but after coming across Adams Swirl and Haze remover kit with the Porter Cable 7424, I've achieved GREAT RESULTS, just absolutely amazing, and I seem to be able to work that thing pretty well!
After using the whole setup on my 2010 Camaro SS, I've received a ridiculous amount of compliments as well as "request". I've counted, and I had over 10 people take my number down and bother the hell out of me because they want a full detail of they're cars and trucks, which after review has a great number swirls and haze marks. Nothing really bad like chipped paint, but before I even considered any of the request, I worked on a test vehicle which has some pretty noticeable swirl marks easily identifiable, I did 3 five minute passes with the orange pad and low and behold the swirls were GONE! And when I applied the polish the paint just came alive looked absolutely AMAZING. Brand new; factory brand new. So, it looks like I'm going to be buying tons more washcloths from Adams and a couple of gallons of detail spray as well as more swirl and haze remover.
But to make my long story short..........
Besides finding swirl marks with a light in your garage or a light which shines on the surface of the car,.......how do I go about actually finding swirls? Is there a more "professional" way than using the light on the top of your garage? Like is there a special light I can use on the surface of the car to make the swirls more visible therefore making it easier for me to find and remove? My Camaro looks flawless from just about every angle, and it's a daily driver, but when I put the car into the light and look deeply with one eye open,...I can see not swirls but small not even a centimeter in length infinitesimal "micro-scratches" that's **** near impossible to find. There isn't a special light or anything I can shine on the car to make these things show up better? At night in my garage just isn't cutting it. In the garage I can find swirls, but when I put the car under brighter light out in the yard and get extremely close down at almost face level, I see them. Invisible to everyone else, but visible to me only when I'm that close.
Any suggestions?
ALSO.....anyone have any honest pricing ideas I should offer my customers? I have people calling me out the a**; they want they're car done. And the damage they're paint has, I KNOW I can remove it because I've removed worse. Like what should I charge for a full 2 day detail of washing, drying, claying, swirl and haze remover process, polish,wax, interior and under the hood cleaning? All of that takes TIME. I couldn't even finish my Camaro in one day, I don't know if it's because I'm so thorough, or because to actually remove swirls, it takes TIME, and multiple passes. I see these guys at a local place named Safari charging at least 200.00 dollars for a full detailing including wax using only they're car wash machine which washes the car then applies liquid wax, and other packages they offer have guys out there cleaning and drying cars with torn "rags" and T-shirts, more like cleaning the car with sandpaper. Any pricing ideas for what I would go about charging based on the amount of work I put into each car would be nice. I don't wanna start too low or too high. And for me, hoopti's are out, I don't want to waste my time cleaning them; I only want to cater to people with mercedes, bmws,audis,porches, camaros, classics, vets,chargers, challengers, or basically any car which isn't in "just repaint it" condition. I see too many high price car owners with horrible swirls and different marks,.....it p's me off. Why have a 100,000 dollar car and don't take care of it? I've seen guys with BMW 750LI's, Mercedes, R8s, lambos, and z06 vets and keep they're paint in absolutely bad condition. Kills me.
ANYWAY........
I'd like to thank Junkman for "waking me up" from the matrix to these swirl marks and Adam for having such GREAT products that actually work, and you all who offer me useful information.
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