Brett LaCroix Posted March 16, 2010 Share Posted March 16, 2010 I am not a professional detailer... just doing research before using this on my car. But how do professional detailers use a product that has a cure time of 12hrs? Do you tell your customer to wait a day, then wipe down their own vehicle? Do you keep their vehicle for 2 days to finish it? Just curious... Brett Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Team Adam's Posted March 16, 2010 Share Posted March 16, 2010 I am not a professional detailer... just doing research before using this on my car. But how do professional detailers use a product that has a cure time of 12hrs? Do you tell your customer to wait a day, then wipe down their own vehicle? Do you keep their vehicle for 2 days to finish it? Just curious... Brett When I was still detailing for dollars it was either scenario really. Some vehicles I had over the course of 2-3 days (trust me... when you prep something for contest judging or magazine features it takes at least that long) so it wasn't an issue. For the 1 day turn arounds I would provide my customers with a 4oz detail spray, microfiber, and instructions on followup when they got home. But it was also rare people paying for detail work wanted a long lasting product, they preferred the slightly shorter durability with the better looks of Americana. They'd be back within 3-4 months for follow up or freshening anyways so having something like MSW wasn't a necessity and I used it primarily on wheels. Also keep in mind that the secondary wipe down isn't always necessary. The additional hazing and clouding tends to only be visible on dark colors and even then its not always prevalent. The dryer and warmer it is when you do the application the less likely it will event take the full 12 hours. During the summer I can see MSW fully cure in less than 5-6. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris@Adams Posted March 17, 2010 Share Posted March 17, 2010 I just use MSW on my cars,I can leave them in the garage overnight, and do another wipe down. If you are going to do someone else's car consider Americana or Buttery. Buttery is a very good wax that is overlooked. IMHO:thumbsup: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NightMare Silverado Posted March 17, 2010 Share Posted March 17, 2010 Buttery is cool if I'm doing a friends car but for me it's Americana all the way. I used MSW on the hood of my moms truck and I prefer hand waxing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaleenJOE Posted March 17, 2010 Share Posted March 17, 2010 I rarely use MSW anymore since i clean my cars so often. Usually mine get a coat of buttery followed by americana Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superdutytd Posted March 17, 2010 Share Posted March 17, 2010 Most of the time its not noticeable enough to really matter IMO. Usually when I give a vehicle back (even black) I just tell people if they see anything it will go away after the first wash but I haven't had anyone notice anything as of yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcss383 Posted March 17, 2010 Share Posted March 17, 2010 I never noticed the hazing later on any of my applications either. I still did a DS wipe down, but that was just because I wanted to remove whatever little dust may have been on it before moving on to Americana or a 2nd coat of MSW. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chewy Posted March 17, 2010 Share Posted March 17, 2010 I use MSW on my cars because of the longevity of it but after that I'll put several coats of Americana on it. So IMO a base of MSW and then several coats (over several months) of Americana is the best. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
w0lfy Posted December 3, 2010 Share Posted December 3, 2010 As a new mobile detailer I am going to use buttery in a basic detail package and Americana in my complete detail package...... When i use MSW it will be either on a complete paint restoration or a car club owners car and i will either have the car or *undisturbed* access to it for @ least two days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sundog Detailing Posted December 3, 2010 Share Posted December 3, 2010 I have to admit that the cure time is the only reason I don't use it on customers cars, I use another company's product. I use MSW on my POV's though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kingsford Posted December 3, 2010 Share Posted December 3, 2010 MSW offers the best protection and will give you a decent shine. I'd just tell the people that they might have to wipe it down the next day or you're going to do the exterior one day and the interior the 2nd day. If you dont want to have it for 2 days.... Get Americana Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chewy Posted December 3, 2010 Share Posted December 3, 2010 I've put it on all the time without wiping it down the next day. Usually by the next day, my car has so much dust on it, you can't tell anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
w0lfy Posted December 3, 2010 Share Posted December 3, 2010 MSW offers the best protection and will give you a decent shine. I'd just tell the people that they might have to wipe it down the next day or you're going to do the exterior one day and the interior the 2nd day. If you dont want to have it for 2 days.... Get Americana can be very costly in gas and time for a mobile detailer to have to back track to re-touch cars and not very professional to have a customer do any part of work they paid u to do. Which is why i will only offer it for my high-end detail where i will have the car for more then 24hrs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marylander Posted December 3, 2010 Share Posted December 3, 2010 Which is why i will only offer it for my high-end detail where i will have the car for more then 24hrs. that's not a bad point. You're always best setting people's expectations and letting them know ahead of time that you need the car for 24 hours or whatever. A full correction/detail requires at least that much time anyway, so you could always do the exterior on day 1, put MSW on it at the end of the day, and then do the interior/trim/wipedown the next day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kingsford Posted December 4, 2010 Share Posted December 4, 2010 that's not a bad point. You're always best setting people's expectations and letting them know ahead of time that you need the car for 24 hours or whatever. A full correction/detail requires at least that much time anyway, so you could always do the exterior on day 1, put MSW on it at the end of the day, and then do the interior/trim/wipedown the next day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
w0lfy Posted December 4, 2010 Share Posted December 4, 2010 :iagree: was pretty much my thought process to Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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I am not a professional detailer... just doing research before using this on my car.
But how do professional detailers use a product that has a cure time of 12hrs?
Do you tell your customer to wait a day, then wipe down their own vehicle?
Do you keep their vehicle for 2 days to finish it?
Just curious...
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