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kingc6

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there was a scratch on the hood of my 2010 GS vette, i grab the brand new orange pad and put 4 drops of swirl and haze remover, set the buffer to 3 and attempt to remove the scratch, my end result was this...

 

 

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now this is not my first time using adams on a black car, i used junkmans process on my black excursion and the paint looked flawless, did the same process on the vette and this is what happened

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i grab the brand new orange pad and put 4 drops of swirl and haze remover, set the buffer to 3 and attempt to remove the scratch, my end result was this...

 

Theres your problem. SHR is to be worked at 5000opm and for that small of an area 4 drops was a tad too much product. 4 drops will effectively do a half hood or a fender. Also, Swirl & Haze is not a finishing product, it doesn't do stand along corrections, it should always be followed with Fine Machine Polish or Revive to complete the process.

 

I also really hope you weren't buffing on that paint b/c it looks very dusty/dirty. Was this picture taken immediately after polishing or was this just something you noticed a while after you did it?

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ekk!! I agree with Dylan...just keep us updated here...fret not, the "damage" can be corrected...I would wash, dry, clay, re-wash, then FMP the spot using the white pad and see where that gets you.

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Yea, for a fine little scratch like that, I would just use a white pad and FMP and see if you need to work up to SHR. Make sure the area your buffing is always clean... if there is any surface contamination or dust your going to do more harm than good...

 

Don't stress... it's fixable!

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noo i washed and then clayed it, i took this pic today when i got home so the car was dusty, i talked to a local detail shop and they said they doubt if they could buff it out which is when i started freaking out. so how would you guys go about fixing this?

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well you might as well go and correct the whole side of that hood,

 

start off with a wash then dry

then clay it

then orange pad with swirl and haze on speed 5 prob 4 or 5 drops will do that whole side of the hood.

then take out the fine machine polish on the white pad at speed 5 with 4 drops

and see where your at there.

 

if correction is desired apply msw at 3 to finish and protect it.

 

 

( if you just washed and doesnt need to be washed again just clean off with ds and then go to clay.

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noo i washed and then clayed it, i took this pic today when i got home so the car was dusty, i talked to a local detail shop and they said they doubt if they could buff it out which is when i started freaking out. so how would you guys go about fixing this?

 

OK, good... you scared me for a second there! ;)

 

My confidence in a lot of detail shops lately has been faltering... I've fixed some seriously heinous problems that people were told by a "professional detail shop" couldn't be fixed. There are good detail shops out there, but they seem to be few and far between with a generous helping of hacks dominating the market.

 

Once your pads dry out try the suggestions here, bump the speed up (anything below about 4500opm isn't going to be enough to work the polish properly) follow with a pass of Fine Machine on the white pad at 5000opm, wipe away and inspect.

 

If the scratch is still pretty noticable take a few more passes with the orange pad + SHR, follow up with FMP on the white pad again and see where that gets you.

 

If you drag your fingernail across the scratch does it catch?

 

Lets put it this way, if I can take out a keyed swastika from this porsche you should at least be able to reduce that scratch to barely noticeable:

 

BEFORE:

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AFTER:

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kingc6

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no i cant feel the scratch with my fingernail but it is a long scratch. i have no idea how it got there, only think i can think of was the dealership used a water blade to dry it. other than that i have no idea

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Theres your problem. SHR is to be worked at 5000opm and for that small of an area 4 drops was a tad too much product. 4 drops will effectively do a half hood or a fender. Also, Swirl & Haze is not a finishing product, it doesn't do stand along corrections, it should always be followed with Fine Machine Polish or Revive to complete the process.

 

I also really hope you weren't buffing on that paint b/c it looks very dusty/dirty. Was this picture taken immediately after polishing or was this just something you noticed a while after you did it?

 

I agree, Was the pad new? Did you prime the pad?

 

Keep us posted!:thumbsup:

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Before Adams...

 

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After 3 passes of SHR and FMP each. :pc:

 

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Macro close-up 3inches away! You can barely see it. Probably would have removed it completely with another pass. But it's my wifes van and I'm sure she'll hit another shopping cart! :willy:

 

Good Luck with your scratch!

 

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Remember that pressure and speed are everything. What Dylan is telling you is of course spot on. He's been doing this forever...

 

I like to use constant pressure with the orange pad until I can see the damage (scratches) are gone. Just enough to hear the motor working and then slowly release the pressure as I go till I have almost no pressure on it when done with one process. Then I switch to the white pad using less pressure and the same method. As I go I release the amount of pressure until the last pass of just the machine weight pushing against the pad.

 

It's my method and it works for me. Be patient. Take your time. It's MUCH more of an art then a science...

 

Results like these are easily doable.

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Remember that pressure and speed are everything. What Dylan is telling you is of course spot on. He's been doing this forever...

 

 

C'mon... I'm not quite 30 yet... forever is a concept best left to some of our elder statesmen... like Rich or Bill :jester:

 

I really should start to match AJ and put some videos together... I have some advanced techniques that some of you guys who have been polishing for awhile would benefit from.

 

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well the FMP and the white pad did the trick. first i washed and clayed the car then hit the spot with some FMP and the white pad, the scratch was still there so i tried the new orange pad and SHR, im not sure if i dropped the orange pad or what but i had the same results as last time, so no more orange pad for me. After that i went back over with some FMP and now it looks great. Now that i think about what dylan said about most detail shops, the guy there said there wasnt much he could do with it and he was a professional, i spent 20 minutes of my own time and it came out perfect, and i am no where near a professional. thank you for all of your adive:2thumbs:

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