How much MSW

[Osok]

I've watched all the videos and junkman recommends 3 pea sized drops, Adams video shows a couple similar sized drops but these are used when demoing correcting and working on a 2x2 zone.

 

So should I be using say 3 pea dots per 2x2 zone or less?

 

Is there a "rough estimate" on how much cover 3 pea sized drops would cover? Say on a standard door on a 4 door midsized car how many pea sized drops would I need..or would that even do more than one door?

 

I just want to make sure I"m not over doing it or underdoing it. Yesterday I waxed my wife's saturn and kind of went with doing the whole hood in 3 pea sized drops, did the roof with 3 more drops, did two doors on a side with 3 more dops and then 3 more to do the other door side (including the quarter panels on the coresponding sides). I let it dry and buffed it off but it seemed like there was a good amount of gray coming up on the microfibre when I was buffing it off so it got me wondering if i used too much.

 

Thanks for the advice...

[mc2hill]

So should I be using say 3 pea dots per 2x2 zone or less?

 

Yes, or a little less once the pad is primed. If you switch to a new pad, start back with the 3 pea size drops.

 

Soon enough every car you look at becomes 2x2 panels!

[Chris@Adams]

First off you want a thin layer of MSW, 3 small daps would probably do the whole hood. Once the pad is primed you won't need as much product. Just remember maintain a thin layer. Have fun!!

[Osok]

So it sounds like i was close then with the saturn. I broke it down into hood, roof, left side right side and each of those got 3 pea sized drops. So it's normal to have a good amount of gray left on the towel after buffing it off?

[Junkman2008]

The most important thing that you forgot to mention is who's technique are you using?

 

Adam and I have two, totally different techniques. If you use his technique, you use the amount of product that he uses/ That is also true with my technique. You don't mix up the two techniques.

 

MSW is a sealant. As with all sealant, they go on and the results are far more positive when you use thin coats. I use 4 pea sized drops to prime a pad and then use 3 pea-sized drops from then on, keeping an eye on my pad for buildup.

 

Pick a technique and stay with it. Don't mix the two.

[Osok]

The most important thing that you forgot to mention is who's technique are you using?

 

Adam and I have two, totally different techniques. If you use his technique, you use the amount of product that he uses/ That is also true with my technique. You don't mix up the two techniques.

 

MSW is a sealant. As with all sealant, they go on and the results are far more positive when you use thin coats. I use 4 pea sized drops to prime a pad and then use 3 pea-sized drops from then on, keeping an eye on my pad for buildup.

 

Pick a technique and stay with it. Don't mix the two.

Alright I guess this is the novice in me showing then..i will admit I don't see a large difference in your two techniques..unless of course you're talking your slow cut method, but for this instance i'm talking more just the application of MSW.

 

Both mention picking a 2x2 section to get right for correction then work in 2x2 sections for the wax.

 

I guess I couldn't tell you who's technique I'm using per se other than i go at it like "ok..half the hood, put 3 pea sized drops on the pad then go up down back forth very lightly (so PC can spin freely at 3k opm setting) for what i'd say is 3 passes (1 pass = side to side the whole way and up/down the whole way). I think it's going on thin..but i'm just not sure once i buff it off and my MF has a good amount of gray on it.

[Junkman2008]

How long are you allowing it to dry and what exactly were the weather conditions?

[Team Adam's]

I'm confused here... we're talking about Machine Superwax application correct?

 

A few small drops is generally enough, with Superwax you are simply spreading it on the surface, pressure, work time, pad spin, etc all go out the window. You're not POLISHING you're APPLYING. You're just using the machine to spread the product out over the surface.

 

Set the machine at speed 3, a few (3-4) drops is enough to do a good sized area. You should use as much product as it takes to get a THIN and EVEN coat over the surface.

 

Allow 30 minutes (more based on weather conditions) for the product to cure, then remove with a clean microfiber towel.

[Osok]

How long are you allowing it to dry and what exactly were the weather conditions?

 

It was a gray cloudy day all day. Temps were in the low 70s. It sounds like i've possibly used too much and spread it/worked it too long. I let it dry for about 20-25 minutes tops.

[Junkman2008]

It was a gray cloudy day all day. Temps were in the low 70s. It sounds like i've possibly used too much and spread it/worked it too long. I let it dry for about 20-25 minutes tops.

 

That makes a difference. If you have gray wax all over your towels, you must have used too much and didn't allow it to dry sufficiently.

[Osok]

That makes a difference. If you have gray wax all over your towels, you must have used too much and didn't allow it to dry sufficiently.

That's what i was afraid of. Live and learn right?

 

Thanks to everyone for all their input and advice. Note to self..less wax more drying. Adding it to my detail log book:thumbsup: