neontrucks Posted February 27, 2017 Share Posted February 27, 2017 I know some one on here replaces and fixes windshields, was just wondering if GM uses a softer glass than most others. Having problems with scratches on my 2016, have tried diffrent ice scrapers and techniques and am still having issues. Any advice or suggestions would be great. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ocdrifter Posted February 27, 2017 Share Posted February 27, 2017 I know some one on here replaces and fixes windshields, was just wondering if GM uses a softer glass than most others. Having problems with scratches on my 2016, have tried diffrent ice scrapers and techniques and am still having issues. Any advice or suggestions would be great. Can you tell me what brand of glass that's on your car? It's posted on one of the corners of your windshield. I do windshield repairs lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neontrucks Posted February 27, 2017 Author Share Posted February 27, 2017 Can you tell me what brand of glass that's on your car? It's posted on one of the corners of your windshield. I do windshield repairs lol. Has the GM logo in the lower right corner Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ocdrifter Posted February 27, 2017 Share Posted February 27, 2017 Ok yes the GM glass is what I call very brittle, I've seen issues where even scraping the glass with a razor blade will leave scratches on front and side glass. I've noticed this problem since 2008, GM and most German glass is very brittle. The only two brands that I have seen and are more resilient are the brands PPG or LOF. I would look for a windshield snow cover to place on the glass that way you avoid doing further damage to your glass and it will help you from scraping the windshield as much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neontrucks Posted February 27, 2017 Author Share Posted February 27, 2017 Thanks for the input Joe. Genuine GM junk ocdrifter 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ocdrifter Posted February 27, 2017 Share Posted February 27, 2017 I have always been so loyal to GM, buy I'm thinking about my next vehicle and the cards aren't aligning for GM this time. Absolutely right GM Junk! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neontrucks Posted February 27, 2017 Author Share Posted February 27, 2017 I have always been so loyal to GM, buy I'm thinking about my next vehicle and the cards aren't aligning for GM this time. Absolutely right GM Junk! can't say I'm in love with my 16 Silverado, GM build quality isn't what it used to be. Don't know if any other manufacturers are any better though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mariner Posted February 28, 2017 Share Posted February 28, 2017 Well I can tell you Toyota glass must be soft as hell as I have a 2016 4Runner and I just got my windshield replaced due to micro pitting ocdrifter 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neontrucks Posted February 28, 2017 Author Share Posted February 28, 2017 Well I can tell you Toyota glass must be soft as hell as I have a 2016 4Runner and I just got my windshield replaced due to micro pittingwas it covered under warranty? ocdrifter 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ocdrifter Posted February 28, 2017 Share Posted February 28, 2017 Well I can tell you Toyota glass must be soft as hell as I have a 2016 4Runner and I just got my windshield replaced due to micro pitting Dustin you can only blame your self on the micropitting, this usually happens when you tailgate cars and cars in the lanes next to you flinging debris, next time your driving on the expressway stick your hand out the window, most of the time you can feel the debi in the air that you don't realize is there. Yes most glass does pit easily, with that said you'll see the same problem in a few months. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mariner Posted February 28, 2017 Share Posted February 28, 2017 (edited) Dustin you can only blame your self on the micropitting, this usually happens when you tailgate cars and cars in the lanes next to you flinging debris, next time your driving on the expressway stick your hand out the window, most of the time you can feel the debi in the air that you don't realize is there. Yes most glass does pit easily, with that said you'll see the same problem in a few months. I get what you're saying but about 99% of the time I drive with my fiancée and 2 dogs, so I can promise you that I definitely don't tailgate. I always allow plenty of room in front of me to stop because I don't want my dogs to go airborne. Toyota glass is junk. Just check the forums. Very common, and even the safellite guy agreed. Edited February 28, 2017 by Mariner Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mariner Posted February 28, 2017 Share Posted February 28, 2017 was it covered under warranty? Geico covered it in full. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FrozenWS6 Posted February 28, 2017 Share Posted February 28, 2017 (edited) Your lucky to have zero deductible on glass. Not very common up here. Since your lucky if your windshield lasts you a full year. Also you don't have to be tailgating to get pits. If the wind blows up dust, cars in front of you kicking up dustor small pebbles, many things can cause it. But I have cracked out a few Toyota windshields over the years doing chip repairs. I think all the glass is getting softer and thinner to cut the costs and make more profit. Toyota, Audi, Acura, VW, BMW all at the top of the list. Op. If you want to cut down on the scratching let your truck warm up for 5-10 minutes and you'll be good to go. My windshield is pretty clear and 95% clear in 15 minutes. Also it could be your wipers causing some of the scratches. That's what I see on my replacements and repairs more then scraper marks. Edited February 28, 2017 by FrozenWS6 Mariner 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neontrucks Posted March 1, 2017 Author Share Posted March 1, 2017 (edited) My truck takes forever to warm up, had dealer look at and they say it's normal, so I almost always have to scape. The marks are going side ways and don't follow the path of the wipers. Most of them are 1.5" to 2.5" long, but when I scrape my motion is longer than that so I'm not sure what's up with the scratches Edited March 1, 2017 by neontrucks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FrozenWS6 Posted March 2, 2017 Share Posted March 2, 2017 That's surprising that it takes long to warm up. My DD is an 07 TBSS and even at 20 below my windows are clear in 15 minutes of warming up. Since the scratches are that short it leads me to believe there was dust or fine rocks or something similar that have caused it. That may have been frozen to the glass. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joelilton23 Posted March 2, 2017 Share Posted March 2, 2017 That's surprising that it takes long to warm up. My DD is an 07 TBSS and even at 20 below my windows are clear in 15 minutes of warming up. Since the scratches are that short it leads me to believe there was dust or fine rocks or something similar that have caused it. That may have been frozen to the glass. My truck takes forever to warm up, had dealer look at and they say it's normal, so I almost always have to scape. The marks are going side ways and don't follow the path of the wipers. Most of them are 1.5" to 2.5" long, but when I scrape my motion is longer than that so I'm not sure what's up with the scratches If your truck is petrol (gas) it will warm up quicker, whereas if it is a diesel, they are more thermally efficient so they take a lot longer to warm up. Just a thought - we don't get snow here so I have no idea how much that would affect the warming up procedure Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neontrucks Posted March 2, 2017 Author Share Posted March 2, 2017 If your truck is petrol (gas) it will warm up quicker, whereas if it is a diesel, they are more thermally efficient so they take a lot longer to warm up. Just a thought - we don't get snow here so I have no idea how much that would affect the warming up procedure I'm an automotive technician, so I have a pretty good idea of how soon a gas or diesel should take to warm up. That being said I've already gone rounds with the dealer that my truck is slow to warm up, 10 to 15 min. sometimes to blow good warm air. If there is thick ice I have to scrape, it doesn't melt by the time I get to where I'm going. joelilton23 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neontrucks Posted March 2, 2017 Author Share Posted March 2, 2017 That's surprising that it takes long to warm up. My DD is an 07 TBSS and even at 20 below my windows are clear in 15 minutes of warming up. Since the scratches are that short it leads me to believe there was dust or fine rocks or something similar that have caused it. That may have been frozen to the glass. Yes I would have to agree some kind of debriss was frozen on the window. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SumBeach35 Posted March 2, 2017 Share Posted March 2, 2017 I'm an automotive technician, so I have a pretty good idea of how soon a gas or diesel should take to warm up. That being said I've already gone rounds with the dealer that my truck is slow to warm up, 10 to 15 min. sometimes to blow good warm air. If there is thick ice I have to scrape, it doesn't melt by the time I get to where I'm going. What have they done to address the problem? Or have they just done the could not duplicate dance. I'd say keep documenting it. Call GM customer care and demand a higher level technician work on it. Being in the industry I'm sure you know this but sometimes it's not our first thought. I know when I was a VW tech, I all too often just dealt with my own cars issues due to not having the energy to look into them when I had free time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FrozenWS6 Posted March 2, 2017 Share Posted March 2, 2017 (edited) Or try going to a different dealer and see if their more helpful. But for me I'd be up in the dealership owners office because not having much heat is a major safety issue up here. Edited March 2, 2017 by FrozenWS6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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