chris308 Posted November 29, 2008 Share Posted November 29, 2008 Just took advantage of the 20% off sale and picked myself up the gen2 set-up. Can't wait to try it out with my new bottles of machine polish and wax!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Bill-V8V Posted January 1, 2009 Share Posted January 1, 2009 3. What am I doing wrong - while using the orange pad and swirl & haze remover - when the pad seems to be uncontrollable as if its stuck in a rut and going in its own direction? Its like some times I control it with no problems but sometimes it hits a spot where it gets away from me...I dont understand why the change if I am using the same constant pressure Thanks It sounds like you are not keeping the pad level to the surface? Are you spreading the product with the PC set at 3 before moving up to 5 or 6 ? And just a slight mist of DS on the pad prior to applying the product to the pad ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 estecoca Posted January 1, 2009 Share Posted January 1, 2009 Well, I have learned that I was doing at least a couple things wrong. First, I was not spreading the product at 3k OPM and then moving to 5 or 6. I was staying at 3 the entire time. Also, I was applying 5 or 6 sprays of detail spray to the pad. Maybe too much? I also think I am using to much product and perhaps the pad has some old stuff caked on? Basically, I am doing more things wrong than right... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 bigred vette Posted January 1, 2009 Share Posted January 1, 2009 Well, I have learned that I was doing at least a couple things wrong. First, I was not spreading the product at 3k OPM and then moving to 5 or 6. I was staying at 3 the entire time. Also, I was applying 5 or 6 sprays of detail spray to the pad. Maybe too much? I also think I am using to much product and perhaps the pad has some old stuff caked on? Basically, I am doing more things wrong than right... yes,one quick mist of detail spray, just get about 4-6 pea sized drops of product, spread it with the machine off first then do 3k opms, then move on the setting 5 or 6. thats what i do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Adam Posted January 1, 2009 Share Posted January 1, 2009 It sounds like you are not keeping the pad level to the surface? Are you spreading the product with the PC set at 3 before moving up to 5 or 6 ? And just a slight mist of DS on the pad prior to applying the product to the pad ? Bill, you know your PC technique! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Bill-V8V Posted January 1, 2009 Share Posted January 1, 2009 Well, I have learned that I was doing at least a couple things wrong. First, I was not spreading the product at 3k OPM and then moving to 5 or 6. I was staying at 3 the entire time. Also, I was applying 5 or 6 sprays of detail spray to the pad. Maybe too much? I also think I am using to much product and perhaps the pad has some old stuff caked on? Basically, I am doing more things wrong than right... I think you are on the right track now :2thumbs: The first time I used a PC I was ready to put it back in the box and sell it on EBay !!!! It was skipping making noise and just not looking anything like the video's I had watched. But once I actually put that little nylon spacer on the backing plate it worked much better :o:o Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Bill-V8V Posted January 1, 2009 Share Posted January 1, 2009 Bill, you know your PC technique! I must have watched your video and AJ's at least 1000 times before I even bought a PC :lolsmack: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Adam Posted January 1, 2009 Share Posted January 1, 2009 (edited) Well, I have learned that I was doing at least a couple things wrong. First, I was not spreading the product at 3k OPM and then moving to 5 or 6. I was staying at 3 the entire time. Also, I was applying 5 or 6 sprays of detail spray to the pad. Maybe too much? I also think I am using to much product and perhaps the pad has some old stuff caked on? Basically, I am doing more things wrong than right... Estecocoa, have you watched this video yet: If a picture is worth 1,000 words, maybe a video is worth a million! <!-- READ FROM DB --> <form name="video" id="video"><embed style="width: 400px; height: 326px;" id="VideoPlayback" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" src="http://video.google.com/googleplayer.swf?docId=7698717660691041730&hl=en" flashvars=""> Machine Polish Part 1 <table width="440" border="0"> <tbody><tr> <td valign="top" width="80" align="center" height="111">PREVIOUS Hand Polishing </td> <td valign="top" width="280" align="center">Instructional Videos Main Menu</td> <td valign="top" width="80" align="center">NEXT Machine Polish 2</td></tr></tbody></table></form> Edited January 1, 2009 by Adam Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 estecoca Posted January 2, 2009 Share Posted January 2, 2009 I've seen the videos many times but still have not learned enough - obviously - about using the PC. I find myself questioning how much product to use, how hard to press down, etc. I have learned a lot from this forum and I am eager to go out and practice. Currently, my approach to the swirls on my truck is the following: 1. Gen 2 orange w/ one spray of detail spray and 5 pea sized dots of S&H remover 2. spread around at 3k OPM, then run at 6 OPM while pressing down almost to the point that the PC begins to feel the effects of the pressure I put down on it 3. leave residue 4. Gen 2 white w/ one spray of detail spray and 5 dots of FMP 5. spread around at 3k, run at 5k OPM 6. leave residue - similar for machine wax but run PC at 4k OPM with gen 2 black I think one key point is that I work on smaller sections at a time and move more slowly. I may be going too fast and not pressing down enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Krzdimond Posted January 2, 2009 Share Posted January 2, 2009 I would remove the residue after the FMP then detail spray, then apply the wax, but that's just me. Keep in mind that the black pad has NO cutting properties. No pressure is needed. Just the weight of the machine. BTW, what I do to check my work is to reflect the light into my "work area" so I can see the progress as I go. Not working? Press harder/move slower. Micro marring? change up. That kind of thing. I have learned that this is just as much of an art as it is science. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 WaxOnWaxOff Posted January 2, 2009 Share Posted January 2, 2009 These Gen 2 pad sets are amazing! Great functionality and excellent results. Adam, I have to hand it to you- your products just keep getting better and better. You really know how to keep us "detail freaks" happy...! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Nitelord Posted January 2, 2009 Share Posted January 2, 2009 Amen James. Guaranteed 110% Patience + Patience = Great Shine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 GerryC Posted January 2, 2009 Share Posted January 2, 2009 I've seen the videos many times but still have not learned enough - obviously - about using the PC. I find myself questioning how much product to use, how hard to press down, etc. I have learned a lot from this forum and I am eager to go out and practice. Currently, my approach to the swirls on my truck is the following: 1. Gen 2 orange w/ one spray of detail spray and 5 pea sized dots of S&H remover 2. spread around at 3k OPM, then run at 6 OPM while pressing down almost to the point that the PC begins to feel the effects of the pressure I put down on it 3. leave residue 4. Gen 2 white w/ one spray of detail spray and 5 dots of FMP 5. spread around at 3k, run at 5k OPM 6. leave residue - similar for machine wax but run PC at 4k OPM with gen 2 black I think one key point is that I work on smaller sections at a time and move more slowly. I may be going too fast and not pressing down enough. Remove the polish residue before applying the wax, and you don't need to move as slow or use as much pressure when applying the wax. Other than that you've got the idea Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Bill-V8V Posted January 2, 2009 Share Posted January 2, 2009 1. Gen 2 orange w/ one spray of detail spray and 5 pea sized dots of S&H remover 2. spread around at 3k OPM, then run at 6 OPM while pressing down almost to the point that the PC begins to feel the effects of the pressure I put down on it 3. leave residue 4. Gen 2 white w/ one spray of detail spray and 5 dots of FMP 5. spread around at 3k, run at 5k OPM 6. leave residue - similar for machine wax but run PC at 4k OPM with gen 2 black I think one key point is that I work on smaller sections at a time and move more slowly. I may be going too fast and not pressing down enough. Slow down everyone, I think step 6 is just a typo, should say remove residue :2thumbs::2thumbs: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 estecoca Posted January 2, 2009 Share Posted January 2, 2009 Actually, I intended that to say "leave residue" as I have read in numerous places on this forum that there is no need to remove the S&H residue or the FMP residue. Is this right? I would lie to leave it if possible to eliminate a step and save time. But not if it compromises the quality of the work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Bill-V8V Posted January 2, 2009 Share Posted January 2, 2009 Actually, I intended that to say "leave residue" as I have read in numerous places on this forum that there is no need to remove the S&H residue or the FMP residue. Is this right? I would lie to leave it if possible to eliminate a step and save time. But not if it compromises the quality of the work. For step 6 you absolutely need to REMOVE residue. You should always remove polish residue prior to applying wax. I like to remove the residue by hand and then wipe down with DS to ensure I have a really clean smooth surface THEN apply my wax. And then remove the wax residue after it has dried :2thumbs::2thumbs: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Adam Posted January 2, 2009 Share Posted January 2, 2009 You are too kind Jim! Your input keeps us bringing out new products! Thank You my friend:2thumbs: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Adam Posted January 2, 2009 Share Posted January 2, 2009 Remove the polish residue before applying the wax, and you don't need to move as slow or use as much pressure when applying the wax. Other than that you've got the idea :iagree:Exactly! Thanks Gerry:2thumbs: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 rkdiddy Posted January 19, 2009 Share Posted January 19, 2009 I have a set of Gen 1 pads with the DA adapter. Are these new pads that much better? I was actually considering going with a small pad for the PC, I've read while a smaller surface area, they're make the PC more efficient??? Any thoughts/feedback? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 estecoca Posted January 27, 2009 Share Posted January 27, 2009 In my experience, the Gen2s are more flexible and get edges/curves better than the Gen1s. It just feels like they are easier to work with and like you arent going to snap the plate that supports them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 estecoca Posted January 27, 2009 Share Posted January 27, 2009 Is there a time-frame for selling the honeycomb-surfaced orange pad? I took a chunk out of my current one and would like to replace with the new version when available. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Just took advantage of the 20% off sale and picked myself up the gen2 set-up.
Can't wait to try it out with my new bottles of machine polish and wax!!
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