Is Buttery Wax a Cleaner Wax?

[GST Auto Detail]

Was just curious if Adams Buttery wax is classified as a "cleaner wax".  I try and use a cleaner wax on most of the vehicles I detail that do not have perfect, or very good paint.  Now on vehicles that have nearly perfect/perfect paint, they get the Americana treatment.  I know that "cleaner waxes" are designed to help fill in some of the paint's imperfections, but wasn't sure if Adams buttery wax does that or not. 

[Ricky Bobby]

Adam's Buttery is not a cleaner wax like the Wal-Mart specials in the sense that it will not remove oxidation (those really don't either but thats another discussion) - it does have fillers in Buttery Wax though to hide imperfections

Edited July 20, 2016 by Ricky Bobby

[GST Auto Detail]

I"m referring to products like Meguiars Color X, DodDo Juice Need For Speed, etc.  They are cleaner wax/sealants/hybrids that are designed to be used on cars with less than perfect paint. 

[Kingsford]

Revive Hand Polish is considered a "Pre Wax" Cleaner. Use that and follow up with buttery wax if thats what you are looking for. 

 

Cleaner Wax seems like something that was invented by big box stores, pretty much "combining" two products into one in the name that really just does the same thing as one product. When was the last time you used a "Cleaner" Wax and noticed your paint looked different that just using a straight Wax. Try buttery wax side by side with a "cleaner wax" and you won't notice the difference.

 

Tip: Use a sealant before the wax for better protection.

[chops1sc]

You could also use BG before applying the BW to help hide imperfections. This would create an additional step and I'm sure you don't necessarily want that.

[Odds and Ends]

When Buttery was reformulated about a year or so ago, one of the "selling points" was that there were more/better fillers than the previous formula.  How much/what types/etc compared to the old version, is not certain, but yes, there are some filling properties of Buttery.  

 

Brilliant Glaze is probably your best bet for masking light swirls but it isn't super durable and would need topped with something, such as Americana or Buttery to hold it in place.  

 

Speaking of light swirls, if they're light enough to mask, they are certainly light enough to polish away.  Why just cover them up?  Fix 'em!

 

Back to the original question of "Cleaner/Wax", it was always my understanding that these products have a mild abrasive and/or some solvents added to them so they clean the surface and then as they dry, the wax part is left behind for you to buff off.  I guess they work well under specific circumstances, but as I mentioned above, if defects are light enough to cover up, they really should be fixed.  

 

Just my .02  

[GST Auto Detail]

Most of my customers are only looking for a full detail and application of wax.  The other very small percent want a full paint correction, and are okay with paying a high price for what that work entails, as well as the amazing end result.  I was looking at adding another package where I would use something like Mequiar's Paint Reconditioning Cream, which is kind of like an all in one product that will correct paint (not as well as a traditional paint correction), but will remove a lot of the paint's imperfections.  Obviously the price for this package would not be as high a two stage paint correction, but it might target the population that isn't looking for perfection or willing to pay that cost. 

[GST Auto Detail]

When Buttery was reformulated about a year or so ago, one of the "selling points" was that there were more/better fillers than the previous formula.  How much/what types/etc compared to the old version, is not certain, but yes, there are some filling properties of Buttery.  

 

Brilliant Glaze is probably your best bet for masking light swirls but it isn't super durable and would need topped with something, such as Americana or Buttery to hold it in place.  

 

Speaking of light swirls, if they're light enough to mask, they are certainly light enough to polish away.  Why just cover them up?  Fix 'em!

 

Back to the original question of "Cleaner/Wax", it was always my understanding that these products have a mild abrasive and/or some solvents added to them so they clean the surface and then as they dry, the wax part is left behind for you to buff off.  I guess they work well under specific circumstances, but as I mentioned above, if defects are light enough to cover up, they really should be fixed.  

 

Just my .02  

 

I agree with you about fixing them, and if it were my own vehicle, that's what I would do.  I'm referring to 90% of the business I get.  They don't want a paint correction.  They just want a nice detail with some fresh wax. 

[Odds and Ends]

I gathered that from your original post, but my response was getting longer than I wanted...   

 

PM sent.

[Ricky Bobby]

Adam's doesn't sell an All-In-One for production work - you would want to save the Adam's products for your higher end correction jobs - plenty of good All-In-One's on the market

[Bill-V8V]

Just thinking out loud, anyone ever put a few drops of Revive in with their Buttery Wax and see what they see ???

[GST Auto Detail]

Adam's doesn't sell an All-In-One for production work - you would want to save the Adam's products for your higher end correction jobs - plenty of good All-In-One's on the market

 

That's what I typically do.  Adams gets used on the high end cars/trucks/SUV's that have nearly flawless paint.  My Trans Am WS6 and the wife's BMW 325xi always get the Adams treatment.