Confusion between graphene Detail Spray and CS3

[snovvman]

I've read various posts and watched videos trying to understand the differences between the Detail Spray and CS3.

 

I understand that the Detail Spray is designed to work on clean cars whereas CS3 has lubricity that allows the towel to glide and has cleaning power for a waterless wash.  The Detail Spray can be used as a drying aid, but I also read threads indicating that CS3 can serve that role as well.

 

Perhaps the better question is what can the Detail Spray do that the CS3 cannot do?  From what I can tell, CS3 can also be used on a clean car, can also be used as a drying aid, and adds cleaning.  Does the Detail Spray provide more protection?  Better shine?  Better graphene protection?  What am I missing?

 

Also, CS3 is more expensive than the Detail Spray.  I can understand why since the CS3 also cleans.  So why would I ever want to use the Detailer when I have CS3?

 

Please advise.

 

Thanks.

[RayS]

The regular detail spray is used when you need to Polish or Clay a vehicle, not only does it smell good, it is very effective and less expensive than CS3 or Graphene Detail Spray.

 

If your vehicle is Graphene Coated and has sat in the garage for a week and just needs a little dust knocked off it, then the Graphene Detail Spray is ideal. It is not only less expensive than CS3, it also leaves a wet look.

 

If the vehicle has been out and about or sitting for a month in the garage, then you need something with cleaning properties and CS3 is ideal.

[snovvman]

On 5/15/2023 at 5:24 PM, RayS said:

The regular detail spray is used when you need to Polish or Clay a vehicle, not only does it smell good, it is very effective and less expensive than CS3 or Graphene Detail Spray.

 

If your vehicle is Graphene Coated and has sat in the garage for a week and just needs a little dust knocked off it, then the Graphene Detail Spray is ideal. It is not only less expensive than CS3, it also leaves a wet look.

 

If the vehicle has been out and about or sitting for a month in the garage, then you need something with cleaning properties and CS3 is ideal.

 

Thank you.  Between the Graphene Detail Spray and graphene CS3, do you happen to know which product has the more of the resin/graphene ingredients for better durability/protection?  Also, I presume Graphene Boost has the most resin/graphene out of the three products?

[falcaineer]

11 hours ago, snovvman said:

 

Thank you.  Between the Graphene Detail Spray and graphene CS3, do you happen to know which product has the more of the resin/graphene ingredients for better durability/protection?  Also, I presume Graphene Boost has the most resin/graphene out of the three products?

 

I'll ask our chemist, more to follow 

[falcaineer]

I'm not at liberty to release the percentages/amounts, but from highest to lowest, the order is Graphene Boost, GCS3, and finally GDS. Hope that helps!

[snovvman]

3 hours ago, falcaineer said:

I'm not at liberty to release the percentages/amounts, but from highest to lowest, the order is Graphene Boost, GCS3, and finally GDS. Hope that helps!

 

This helps.  Thanks for researching and reporting!

[snovvman]

On 5/17/2023 at 6:14 PM, falcaineer said:

I'm not at liberty to release the percentages/amounts, but from highest to lowest, the order is Graphene Boost, GCS3, and finally GDS. Hope that helps!

 

@falcaineer , another question for you and/or your chemist--Assuming the product is fully cured each time before the next product is applied, are there any issues interlayering graphene products that are water-based and solvent-based?  For example, if one applied the Advanced Graphene Coating (solvent), then uses CS3 for maintenance (water), then use Advanced Graphene Spray (solvent), etc. would that be counterproductive in any way or cause any of the products to not function as well as intended?

 

The question may sound silly, but sometimes there is more leisure to apply a more time consuming/demanding coating (typically solvent-based) while other times only a quick application.  I am curious to know if I can mix-match products as time permits.  Again, assuming they are fully cured before the next layer.  Another way to answer the question is whether it is okay to put solvent-based on top of water-based (since we know it's common to use water-based on top of solvent-based as maintenance).

 

Thanks!

[falcaineer]

7 hours ago, snovvman said:

 

@falcaineer , another question for you and/or your chemist--Assuming the product is fully cured each time before the next product is applied, are there any issues interlayering graphene products that are water-based and solvent-based?  For example, if one applied the Advanced Graphene Coating (solvent), then uses CS3 for maintenance (water), then use Advanced Graphene Spray (solvent), etc. would that be counterproductive in any way or cause any of the products to not function as well as intended?

 

The question may sound silly, but sometimes there is more leisure to apply a more time consuming/demanding coating (typically solvent-based) while other times only a quick application.  I am curious to know if I can mix-match products as time permits.  Again, assuming they are fully cured before the next layer.  Another way to answer the question is whether it is okay to put solvent-based on top of water-based (since we know it's common to use water-based on top of solvent-based as maintenance).

 

Thanks!

 

The coatings need a bare surface to properly bond. Even layering them 2+ times does not give 2x+ protection. You can layer the water-based ones as they're designed to be sacrificial layers anyway. In other words, keep the true coating as your base, use the others as your maintenance.

[snovvman]

3 hours ago, falcaineer said:

 

The coatings need a bare surface to properly bond. Even layering them 2+ times does not give 2x+ protection. You can layer the water-based ones as they're designed to be sacrificial layers anyway. In other words, keep the true coating as your base, use the others as your maintenance.

 

Thanks for your reply.  I fully understand that the base layer needs to be on a bare surface.  My initial layer Advanced Graphene Coating was on a stripped washed, prepped, IPA'd surface.  I also get that 2+ coats does not give 2x the protection.  I am asking exactly about your point--the sacrificial layers.  For the most part, I see using CS3 or boost depending on situation.  They are both water-based.  If one day I have more time, can I use the solvent-based Advanced Graphene Spray on top of CS3 or boost?  Will the solvent-based product be counterproductive because I already used the water-based product on the top surface?

 

We know that the solvent-based Advanced Graphene Spray offers more durable protection than CS3, so if I had the time and product, could I use them interchangeably as toppers?  Again, the root of the question is whether a solvent-based graphene product can be layered on top of a water-based product.  I imagine that once any product is fully cured, it would not matter, but I want to confirm.  Thanks.

[falcaineer]

2 hours ago, snovvman said:

 

Thanks for your reply.  I fully understand that the base layer needs to be on a bare surface.  My initial layer Advanced Graphene Coating was on a stripped washed, prepped, IPA'd surface.  I also get that 2+ coats does not give 2x the protection.  I am asking exactly about your point--the sacrificial layers.  For the most part, I see using CS3 or boost depending on situation.  They are both water-based.  If one day I have more time, can I use the solvent-based Advanced Graphene Spray on top of CS3 or boost?  Will the solvent-based product be counterproductive because I already used the water-based product on the top surface?

 

We know that the solvent-based Advanced Graphene Spray offers more durable protection than CS3, so if I had the time and product, could I use them interchangeably as toppers?  Again, the root of the question is whether a solvent-based graphene product can be layered on top of a water-based product.  I imagine that once any product is fully cured, it would not matter, but I want to confirm.  Thanks.

 

Ah, gotcha. The spray coating won't really work with the other layers in between, nor frankly as well as it could even if right over top of the base layer only (assuming everything else was stripped off or otherwise gone). Will it hurt? No. But in my opinion not really worth your time or effort since the others are great options as-is.

[snovvman]

1 hour ago, falcaineer said:

 

Ah, gotcha. The spray coating won't really work with the other layers in between, nor frankly as well as it could even if right over top of the base layer only (assuming everything else was stripped off or otherwise gone). Will it hurt? No. But in my opinion not really worth your time or effort since the others are great options as-is.

 

Thank you.  That helps.  When you say "since the others are great options as-is", do you mean the G Boost, GCS3, and GDS?

[falcaineer]

4 hours ago, snovvman said:

 

Thank you.  That helps.  When you say "since the others are great options as-is", do you mean the G Boost, GCS3, and GDS?

 

Yes, those. Sorry for the confusion.