Suds!

[ArablueRS3]

(Shameless plug for the Bills) I'm wondering about lack of suds. I purchased the Gilmour foam gun because I didn't want to lug around a pressure washer. I do know I'll get more foam using a foam lance. I use about one ounce of adams soap and warm water. A few times I went with two ounces and still not much foam. Could it be this hard San Diego water that hurts?

[El_Gabe]

I use the same foam gun I do t have a problem with the sids it leave:(i keep it in option C) because I still give it the good Ol 2 buck t wash system and then I spray it again before I rinse injust use it to make the pads wash a bit easier to hit t over again

[Ricky Bobby]

I'd go with about 3 oz of shampoo and 1 oz of Rinseless to neutralize the hard water.

 

Use warm water, and pour the soap in last. I'd also put it on D or E as well.

 

I have a Griots foaming gun for the hose and although it's not adjustable I get a damn respectable amount of suds for only using about 2 oz

[SJC96GT]

I use 4oz of shampoo in Gilmour foam gun creates lots of foam and lubricity.

[ArablueRS3]

Thanks I'll try some of the advice given.

[Ricky Bobby]

FWIW I also don't always fill up the container, I find about 3/4 is plenty to do a pre soak and then rinse and foam again and go right into 2 bucket wash.

 

The foam cannons need less soap (2 oz or so) than the foam guns do to make good suds.

[SJC96GT]

I forgot to add, I use setting C on gilmour foam gun.

[Team Adam's]

You're using too little product. 2oz is enough to generate good lather with a foam CANNON b/c the PSI and flow rate, plus the manner in which it creates the suds requires far less. When using a foam GUN on a hose you should be typically using about 4oz to get a decent foam, but keep in mind this is still not going to create a clinging lather like a cannon does.

 

For reference heres a little side by side screen cap from a vid I made with a different product.

 

On top - 2oz of soap in a cannon  vs. on bottom - 4oz of soap in a foam gun. Both shots are taken at the moment the vehicle had been completely sprayed.

The gun will produce foam, but it doesn't cling nearly as well. Still better than nothing, but set expectations reasonably.

 

[El_Gabe]

what equipment are you using on the top pic?

 

By chance do you have a link?

[Team Adam's]

MTM foam cannon (customized to a short wand myself) with a Greenworks 1500psi 1.4gpm electric cold water pressure washer.

[Ricky Bobby]

MTM foam cannon (customized to a short wand myself) with a Greenworks 1500psi 1.4gpm electric cold water pressure washer.

 

Parts list for short wand necessary

[Team Adam's]

I'll have that writeup up later this week possibly - also in talks with the fine folks at MTM about producing this specific configuration for us in a 'assemble yourself' kit available thru Adam's. Stay tuned.

[Ricky Bobby]

I'll have that writeup up later this week possibly - also in talks with the fine folks at MTM about producing this specific configuration for us in a 'assemble yourself' kit available thru Adam's. Stay tuned.

 

That would be sick.  If you could get the gun included then it would work with anyones PW and no more messing with adapters for different brands.

[DJJimGreen]

I'd go with about 3 oz of shampoo and 1 oz of Rinseless to neutralize the hard water.

 

Use warm water, and pour the soap in last. I'd also put it on D or E as well.

 

I have a Griots foaming gun for the hose and although it's not adjustable I get a damn respectable amount of suds for only using about 2 oz

 

Pause. Rinseless neutralizes hard water?!

[Ricky Bobby]

Yes the polymers encapsulate the minerals, softening and purifying the water and add lubrication. Similar to ONR as it's the same technology. Add an ounce to your soap bucket when you wash as well.

[DJJimGreen]

Yes the polymers encapsulate the minerals, softening and purifying the water and add lubrication. Similar to ONR as it's the same technology. Add an ounce to your soap bucket when you wash as well.

 

This is news to me!!! Well, fantastic. Happy I lurk around all the forum areas.

[ArablueRS3]

 

Thanks for the advice good people! I used 4oz of product this go round. I'll have to invest in a good pressure washer once we leave socal!

[egott_91]

I have the old foam gun Adam's USED to sell. 2 pumps of car shampoo from the gallon topped off with water and I get an awesome amount of foam...way more than you're getting with 4 oz, which is interesting.

[Ricky Bobby]

I have the old foam gun Adam's USED to sell. 2 pumps of car shampoo from the gallon topped off with water and I get an awesome amount of foam...way more than you're getting with 4 oz, which is interesting.

 

I have the same one (its still sold by GG), love it!

[ArablueRS3]

I have the old foam gun Adam's USED to sell. 2 pumps of car shampoo from the gallon topped off with water and I get an awesome amount of foam...way more than you're getting with 4 oz, which is interesting.

I'm thinking it's the bad water I have here in San Diego. I tried an ounce of Rinseless in my wash bucket. It killed the suds fast!

[egott_91]

The pro of using Rinseless in the wash solution, it neutralizes the water. The con, it also kills the suds, but the lubricity of Rinseless is high.

[El_Gabe]

I used the same gun yesterday and it ease my that bad I fill up the whole bottom up tongue first line hen out warm water and let it sit for a bit while I wash the wheels

[DJJimGreen]

I used the same gun yesterday and it ease my that bad I fill up the whole bottom up tongue first line hen out warm water and let it sit for a bit while I wash the wheels

 

[Ricky Bobby]

I used the same gun yesterday and it ease my that bad I fill up the whole bottom up tongue first line hen out warm water and let it sit for a bit while I wash the wheels