MSW & BG VS Americana

[atoy]

Is MSW top with BG as good as Americana?

[Guest Jay.]

(long story short below **) Hey guys, i know the question is not about BW but where does that all fit in. I brought my car to a car show over the summer and did a 90% paint correction on it. Prepped the car with some alcohol and then hit it with 2 passes of S/H then 2 passes of FMP and then i applied the MSW. At this point the car already looked insanely good. So i gave it one pass with the BW and it popped like crazy. You could not look directly at the car in the sunshine without squinting.

 

**So long story short, where does the BW fit in to all this, if at all. Under BG, and then americana, or over BG and under americana. To be honest i`ve used both the BG and the BW over MSW and they were all identical, the BG being a bit deeper the BW being a but more shinny.

 

Thanks, sorry for long post.

[Crooz1n]

Well I was actually thinking of doing it over a couple weeks as time allowed. We bought a new to us Vette and I've already Clayed it,polished and put 1 coat of MSW on it. I was going to put a second coat of MSW on then try and do the BG and Americana on same day. That should get her through the winter mostly.

[atoy]

Hi Chris.. Some Cars are garage queen, some are dd.. want to have all in one product due to shipping cost and shipping time.. product will be more than double the cost and arrive more than 2mos when ship here.. there's a dealer here in our country but doesn't carry all products. i think because tha market is not that big for such product..

[THE Mook]

Thought you needed to wait 24 hrs before adding anything over MSW...

 

Dylan?

[Fierce5]

I dont mean to highjack the thread but can someone tell me what do you think about a coat of MSW followed by Americana and finally another MSW. I believe that this way Americana's depth will last younger since its covered by the MSW and the protection will be double. Please correct me if im wrong

[mc2hill]

a coat of MSW followed by Americana and finally another MSW.

 

You can top a sealant (MSW) with a wax, but you cannot top a wax with a sealant - it won't adhere properly.

[Fierce5]

You can top a sealant (MSW) with a wax, but you cannot top a wax with a sealant - it won't adhere properly.

 

I thought Americana is a sealant..isnt it?

[Doug123]

If I am correct in my understanding, think minimum 12 hrs. for a cure at approx. 70 degrees and moderate humidity. I would expect that any reactions (curing going on) would take longer if the temps are cooler. I'm not sure how the humidity factors in - does more humidity make the cure take longer, or perhaps shorter - or does it have any effect at all? Dylan, can we get some clarification?

 

I only have once had a slight haze the next day (in a small area) after applying MSW. I live near the beach, so it does not get very warm (80 degrees max) and there is always a fair bit of humidity, so it's pretty forgiving, in my opinion. My rule (as I was advised) is to put it on really thin. Doesn't seem to take a lot, and it holds up near the beach really well. This is THE product for me, as my HHR lives outside. (of course, I sometimes top it with Americana - well after it's cured.

[Chris@Adams]

I thought Americana is a sealant..isnt it?

Americana is a wax not a sealant! And a great wax at that!!

[Fierce5]

Americana is a wax not a sealant! And a great wax at that!!

 

So how about two coats of MSW and then Americana?

[Chris@Adams]

So how about two coats of MSW and then Americana?

Sounds good but wait awhile in between coats.

Do you have sunglasses?:glasses:You will need some!

[w0lfy]

stiil allow for full cure time of the last coat of msw before the bg

[Doug123]

MSW must be against the paint if you are going to use it. I am not sure about BG under Buttery, or how it would last. I would try BG over the BW.

[Fierce5]

Sounds good but wait awhile in between coats.

Do you have sunglasses?:glasses:You will need some!

im ready with the glasses ...no probs...thanks for the advice

[atoy]

if you were to choose, MSW top w/ BG or Americana 2coats only w/o BG.. Durability and POP

[Doug123]

[Crooz1n]

If i remember what read on the label 12 hours min. So I did MSW then ~14 hours later re wiped and did B. Glaze. Wiped after an hour or so then a coat of Americana. She looked good. Sorry no pics , What a dufus.

[Team Adam's]

Define "as good". Durable? Shiny?

[Kingsford]

If I am correct in my understanding, think minimum 12 hrs. for a cure at approx. 70 degrees and moderate humidity. I would expect that any reactions (curing going on) would take longer if the temps are cooler. I'm not sure how the humidity factors in - does more humidity make the cure take longer, or perhaps shorter - or does it have any effect at all? Dylan, can we get some clarification?

 

MSW takes 24 hours to FULLY cure. I would think 100% humidity would make it take longer to cure, while 0% would let it cure faster.

[Kingsford]

Well from what I understand MSW lasts about 6-12 months depending on the weather conditions where you live and how you take care of the vehicle. I believe Americana lasts longer than MSW....

 

When it comes to shine, Americana is amazing with BG under it. Made my truck look darker and have a deep reflection!

 

BG & MSW would still show pretty awesome results I would think but the best combo for shine would probably be BG under Americana.

 

Dylan posted something about BG under Americana when the new BG came out. I'd probably look that up. I also posted some pictures of Americana on top of MSW (waxed a week apart) showing how great of a job it does beading water.

 

 

From what I remember that picture was taken 3 weeks after MSW and 2 weeks after Americana.

[atoy]

Hi Dylan.. BOTH.. Durability and Shine.. Advantages and disadvantages of both combination

[atoy]

Hi Jason.. Ok, i think i will have BG and Americana instead of MSW and BG.. Very expensive to buy adams product ship to the Philippines, it's almost double the price. That's why i'm trimming down product that i will use. Have the old BSG but im running low.. Have enough MSW though... i'm ordering some adams soon.. Is it ok to use Americana on Wheels?

[Kingsford]

Is it ok to use Americana on Wheels?

 

I dont see why it wouldn't be, its just like any other wax except better. I'd probably only use that applicator for that purpose and not put it on paint again. Mark it some how with a Sharpee on the top.

[atoy]

ok.. Thanks

[Osok]

So how about two coats of MSW and then Americana?

 

I'm in the process of this right now Just put my 2nd coat of MSW on.