aworkman Posted May 17, 2011 Share Posted May 17, 2011 I searched and didn't see anything on this. How often do you apply MSW? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Team Adam's Posted May 17, 2011 Share Posted May 17, 2011 Theres a very simple way to tell when its time to put down a fresh coat of superwax... or buttery... or americana... or anything thats protecting your paint for that matter. While washing if the water goes FLAT instead of beading up or rolling away then you need to apply a fresh coat. Sealants and waxes reduce surface tension and force water to bead up, when they start to break down the effect becomes less and less until it doesn't happen at all. Its impossible to give 'one size fits all' application recommendations simply b/c everyones situation is different. Car kept outside vs. garaged. Daily driver vs. weekend toy. 30 mile commute vs. 5 mile commute. SoCal in winter vs. Michigan in winter. So many variables come into play that its just crazy to try and peg one number down so "As needed" is the best advice I can give you. If you held a gun to my head I'd say the average would fall somewhere between 4-6 months of durability... thats clock ticking from the second you apply it to the complete failure of it. Also nothing says you have to wait until its completely degraded to put a fresh coat down... if its been 3 months, and you still have beading, just not as good as it was when it was fresh, put a new coat down... it won't hurt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedexInLA Posted May 19, 2011 Share Posted May 19, 2011 I just keep my cars waxed, I'm sure my paint is protected after 30 days but I apply it just to make sure it's good and mostly to give it a little pop. I think "UV rays" plays a big role in breaking waxes down not to mention the finish. "I don't have any 'real' scientific evidence to back this up. " Same here, just something that I read. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Team Adam's Posted May 19, 2011 Share Posted May 19, 2011 Yes, prolonged exposure to heat will cause wax to soften to a degree... but thats true of anything. Even the most durable sealant in the world will see a shortened life span when exposed to heat regularly for 30 days straight... thats why garage kept cars need less frequent waxing/sealing than daily drivers. All things acting on your LSP are shortening the life of it - wind, rain, UV rays, heat, etc. 30 days is on the short side, but a weak wax could certainly break down that quickly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superdutytd Posted May 19, 2011 Share Posted May 19, 2011 I read that wax can break down in 30 days at a temp of 101 and must be appiled again. (If parked in the sun)Anyone know of the facts. It was carnuba wax that I read this on. My truck and SUV is parked in the sun while at work so on avg. I wax it once per month. I am going to say no, as both my truck and mustang have been parked outside in hot weather during the summer and they still have protection afterwards. But I don't have any 'real' scientific evidence to back this up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedexInLA Posted May 18, 2011 Share Posted May 18, 2011 I read that wax can break down in 30 days at a temp of 101 and must be appiled again. (If parked in the sun) Anyone know of the facts. It was carnuba wax that I read this on. My truck and SUV is parked in the sun while at work so on avg. I wax it once per month. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superdutytd Posted May 18, 2011 Share Posted May 18, 2011 Also I still find that it's hard to beat the pure reflective qualities of MSW. Americana has a great glow to it and also has great reflection. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TR6speed Posted May 18, 2011 Share Posted May 18, 2011 I stopped using the MSW and have gone strictly to Americana because mine is garaged kept, covered and is not a daily driver. I use the MSW on the wife's Acadia even though it is garaged kept at home and in a covered parking garage at work, it is still a daily driver. I can get about 4-6 months on the MSW with an occasional coat of BG. On my Vette, I usually do the Americana 3-4 times a year and that depends on how many shows I do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superdutytd Posted May 18, 2011 Share Posted May 18, 2011 MSW is TOUGH. I've seen upwards of 5 months protection in an outdoor kept, daily driver pickup through a WA winter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aworkman Posted May 18, 2011 Author Share Posted May 18, 2011 Theres a very simple way to tell when its time to put down a fresh coat of superwax... or buttery... or americana... or anything thats protecting your paint for that matter. While washing if the water goes FLAT instead of beading up or rolling away then you need to apply a fresh coat. Sealants and waxes reduce surface tension and force water to bead up, when they start to break down the effect becomes less and less until it doesn't happen at all. Its impossible to give 'one size fits all' application recommendations simply b/c everyones situation is different. Car kept outside vs. garaged. Daily driver vs. weekend toy. 30 mile commute vs. 5 mile commute. SoCal in winter vs. Michigan in winter. So many variables come into play that its just crazy to try and peg one number down so "As needed" is the best advice I can give you. If you held a gun to my head I'd say the average would fall somewhere between 4-6 months of durability... thats clock ticking from the second you apply it to the complete failure of it. Also nothing says you have to wait until its completely degraded to put a fresh coat down... if its been 3 months, and you still have beading, just not as good as it was when it was fresh, put a new coat down... it won't hurt. Thanks Dylan. This is great information, exactly what I needed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExpressThis13 Posted May 17, 2011 Share Posted May 17, 2011 me personally I will do 2 applications of MSW in a period of 2 weekends then next weekend I would follow it up with americana and buttery for the rest of the time Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAYBEN Posted May 17, 2011 Share Posted May 17, 2011 sub'd Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue04SSS Posted May 17, 2011 Share Posted May 17, 2011 Should last a couple months. When it stops beading water nicely, time for another application Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aworkman Posted May 17, 2011 Author Share Posted May 17, 2011 Thanks for the feedback! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aworkman Posted May 17, 2011 Author Share Posted May 17, 2011 Is your car garaged or does it live outside? Outside...garaged occasionally. (When the garage is cleaned up ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris@Adams Posted May 17, 2011 Share Posted May 17, 2011 Is your car garaged or does it live outside? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IMADreamer Posted May 17, 2011 Share Posted May 17, 2011 I typically only MSW going into winter and Americana the rest of the time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mc2hill Posted May 17, 2011 Share Posted May 17, 2011 It can last up to 6 months, so about 2-3 times a year. Adam and Dylan would appreciate a weekly application though! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mbreyer Posted May 17, 2011 Share Posted May 17, 2011 As often as needed. Id say just like any other wax/polymer when it appears to be breaking down or you just want that first wax shine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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