GTAHVIT Posted October 17, 2011 Share Posted October 17, 2011 Got a question as a first time PC user. I've got a similar situation... emx620 in this thread. http://www.adamsforums.com/forums/machine-polishing/13711.htm?highlight=holograms All I've done to the car with the PC is the SHR, and I have something similar to emx620 going on... In direct sunlight, I have one or two vertical lines parallel to each other that move in the opposite direction as I am. So if I'm standing on the passenger side facing the car and slide to the front bumper, the lines move to the rear. and vice versa.... I wanted to ask you guys if this is normal? and I should continue on with FMP? I'll post some pics here in a few, need to move the car so it's in some direct sunlight. I planned on finishing up the polishing with some BG then BW... Thoughts? Thanks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Frid Posted October 17, 2011 Share Posted October 17, 2011 "Those appear more to be smudging, likely from polishing oils and things of that nature, not holograms. Its virtually impossible to introduce holograms with the PC as there is not forced high speed rotation to the pad. Holograms are the result of poor rotary technique. Start by stripping the car, you can use dawn dish soap or a mixture of All Purpose Cleaner and car wash to create an non-neutral strip wash. Once you get all the waxes off of the finish, go ahead and clay the entire car, then work panel by panel. Use less product this go around. Fine Machine Polish is notoriously hard to remove all of if you go too heavy on the product or don't work it fully." This was quoted from Dylan. Give this a shot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Team Adam's Posted October 17, 2011 Share Posted October 17, 2011 That would be the first thing I'd suggest... fact of the matter is holograming is only really possible from the use of a high speed with bad technique. The PC doesn't really have the capability of holograming a finish so you're most likely dealing with smudging/polishing oils/residues that didn't come off fully. Try to strip part of the problem area with IPA to start... if it doesn't come off then you may just have a couple of spots where you didn't work the polish fully (common for new comers) and it hazed the finish a tad. Hit it again with the process and they should come out. Just address the obvious first and make sure its not something that will come off with IPA Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 GTAHVIT Posted October 17, 2011 Author Share Posted October 17, 2011 cool.. after looking at it again while taking some pics, it doesn't seem as bad as it did earlier... The other thing I forgot to mention was I initially was at speed 4 on the PC... then realized I should have been on 5... would slower speeds cause the smudging? or make it harder to wipe to polish off? wait... LOL I'm thinking this through as I type. Tell me if I'm right.... as long as I let the polish flash... the speed shouldn't matter that much??? it just won't cut as well at 4 as it does at 5? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Team Adam's Posted October 17, 2011 Share Posted October 17, 2011 The other thing I forgot to mention was I initially was at speed 4 on the PC... then realized I should have been on 5... would slower speeds cause the smudging? or make it harder to wipe to polish off? yes and no... its gonna take a long time to break stuff down at 4 vs. 5 b/c thats a good amount of drop off in speed, so odds are you'd see the polish dry out before it had a chance to flash in many cases. I'd say no lower than 5 for your next go around and you'd have less of an issue. Plus at such a low speed like 4 its really hard to put down the appropriate amount of pressure on the pad to get effective polishing without fully stalling the pad rotation out. If you do get appropriate rotation your pressure is probably too light for the pad to make good contact. General Rules to Follow: Settings 1-3 good for spreading/applying Setting 4 good for 4" pad work Setting 5-6 good for polishing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 GTAHVIT Posted October 17, 2011 Author Share Posted October 17, 2011 yes and no... its gonna take a long time to break stuff down at 4 vs. 5 b/c thats a good amount of drop off in speed, so odds are you'd see the polish dry out before it had a chance to flash in many cases. I'd say no lower than 5 for your next go around and you'd have less of an issue. Plus at such a low speed like 4 its really hard to put down the appropriate amount of pressure on the pad to get effective polishing without fully stalling the pad rotation out. If you do get appropriate rotation your pressure is probably too light for the pad to make good contact. General Rules to Follow: Settings 1-3 good for spreading/applying Setting 4 good for 4" pad work Setting 5-6 good for polishing sweet! Thanks very much! Here's the best pics I could take at lunch... Doesn't really show what I'm seeing... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 rha600 Posted October 17, 2011 Share Posted October 17, 2011 I see it. I get those as well. I'm going to have to try Dylan's dawn/APC treatment next time before going to town on the truck. btw, you need new tires. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 GTAHVIT Posted October 17, 2011 Author Share Posted October 17, 2011 I see it. I get those as well. I'm going to have to try Dylan's dawn/APC treatment next time before going to town on the truck. btw, you need new tires. Yep I'm gonna put some Isopropyl Alcohol. on the car to get it uber clean... Then hit it again. If you think the fronts are bad you should see the rears... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Team Adam's Posted October 17, 2011 Share Posted October 17, 2011 If you think the fronts are bad you should see the rears... Home made drag slicks? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 GTAHVIT Posted October 17, 2011 Author Share Posted October 17, 2011 Home made drag slicks? I like the way you think.... cept it's more like..... She's kinda squirly... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 GTAHVIT Posted October 17, 2011 Author Share Posted October 17, 2011 And just cus I know you guys will appreciate this. Proud dad moment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Guest Gone & Forgotten Posted October 17, 2011 Share Posted October 17, 2011 Get em young man - Good Job! Two Bucket wash should be instinct to future drivers. Personally, I never planned to ever wash I car. When I was 14 I figured my 3rd platinum album would guarantee my Limo status for life. Blah, by age 30, only had one local hit song, sold 6000 copies at shows. Lame. 2 bucket wash rules. Add a Merino wash mitt to your next order. Worth the $$cha-ching$$. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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0 ArmyAcadia09 Posted October 17, 2011 Share Posted October 17, 2011 verynice family event..dylan nice photoshop work Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 GTAHVIT Posted October 18, 2011 Author Share Posted October 18, 2011 (edited) Get em young man - Good Job! Two Bucket wash should be instinct to future drivers. Personally, I never planned to ever wash I car. When I was 14 I figured my 3rd platinum album would guarantee my Limo status for life. Blah, by age 30, only had one local hit song, sold 6000 copies at shows. Lame. 2 bucket wash rules. Add a Merino wash mitt to your next order. Worth the $$cha-ching$$. and I thought I was gonna be a pro athlete.... at 5'9" 150 lbs... At least you actually gave it a shot. the merino mit is on my wish list for sure. Dude, It's like you were there... verynice family event..dylan nice photoshop work Thanks very much! photoshop... LMAO Edited October 18, 2011 by GTAHVIT Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Guest Gone & Forgotten Posted October 19, 2011 Share Posted October 19, 2011 http://www.soloman.net/resources/whynot.mp3 The Song lol. There's others, had a few play on local radio in moderate rotation. Was cool, I'd be working and hear my band on the radio. Pretty cool feeling. Been over 10 years. Now I just write and record on the iMac home studio. 5'9" 150 - there's PLENTY pro athletes that size. I was too lazy to play sports. Long hair and guitars = ladies when I was younger . :rockon::rockon::rockon: :rockon::rockon: :rockon::rockon::rockon: :rockon: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 GTAHVIT Posted October 24, 2011 Author Share Posted October 24, 2011 OK to the experts.... car rewashed, clayed.... AAAANDD wiped down with 70% iso alchohol. That baby is stripped! cleaned everything all my pads and MF towels. I will probably be able to start polishing again with the PC on Wed. so, what should I do if anything before I start polishing? wipe the car down again with Alcohol? waterless wash??? What say the experts Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Team Adam's Posted October 24, 2011 Share Posted October 24, 2011 No need to strip it a second time... just make sure its clean... REALLY clean before you start so give it a bath or waterless wash before you start polishing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 GTAHVIT Posted October 24, 2011 Author Share Posted October 24, 2011 Cool, shouldn't be too dirty as we are expecting any rain and I keep her in the garage at night... I finally got a good video of the effect I'm seeing... I'm starting to think it's just reflection from microscratches... should be ready to post in a few mins Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 GTAHVIT Posted October 24, 2011 Author Share Posted October 24, 2011 (edited) OK... Keep in mind, the paint is stripped... And the deck lid has never been machine polished.... what do you think... video can be watched in 1080p <object style="height: 390px; width: 640px"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l67CpLFdr-4?version=3&feature=player_detailpage"><param name="allowFullScreen" value="true"><param name="allowScriptAccess" value="always"><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l67CpLFdr-4?version=3&feature=player_detailpage" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowfullscreen="true" allowScriptAccess="always" width="640" height="360"></object> Edited October 24, 2011 by GTAHVIT Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 GTAHVIT Posted October 25, 2011 Author Share Posted October 25, 2011 Sorry for the tripple post bump... (master level interwebs user....) But before I get the PC back out... I'd like to make double sure you guys don't see anything in that video I should be concerned about.... I'm so embarrassed by the fact that a little machine polish/wax has me so stumped... I've built engines, modded cars my whole life... but the paint stuff has me all wierded out... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Team Adam's Posted October 25, 2011 Share Posted October 25, 2011 So to clarify, that area in the video has never been polished, and was filmed AFTER you stripped with IPA? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 GTAHVIT Posted October 25, 2011 Author Share Posted October 25, 2011 yes sir. there was a bit of condensation on it, the night before while I was wiping down with the alcohol, but not when I shot that video the following day (yesterday). You think my MF was dirty??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Team Adam's Posted October 25, 2011 Share Posted October 25, 2011 No... if you've never polished before it might just be a combination of swirls and maybe some buffing done by the dealer... thats almost a hologram effect, but not quite. Hit it with a pass of FMP on the white pad and I bet its gone or at the least reduced by a lot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 GTAHVIT Posted October 25, 2011 Author Share Posted October 25, 2011 No... if you've never polished before it might just be a combination of swirls and maybe some buffing done by the dealer... thats almost a hologram effect, but not quite. Hit it with a pass of FMP on the white pad and I bet its gone or at the least reduced by a lot. Will do! Taking the day off tomorrow so I can spend some time getting it right. I'll be posting pics/vid if I need to... thanks again! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Team Adam's Posted October 25, 2011 Share Posted October 25, 2011 Cool. Just based on what I'm seeing it shouldn't need more than FMP so hopefully its a quick easy fix. Keep us posted on the results! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Got a question as a first time PC user.
I've got a similar situation... emx620 in this thread.
http://www.adamsforums.com/forums/machine-polishing/13711.htm?highlight=holograms
All I've done to the car with the PC is the SHR, and I have something similar to emx620 going on...
In direct sunlight, I have one or two vertical lines parallel to each other that move in the opposite direction as I am.
So if I'm standing on the passenger side facing the car and slide to the front bumper, the lines move to the rear. and vice versa....
I wanted to ask you guys if this is normal? and I should continue on with FMP?
I'll post some pics here in a few, need to move the car so it's in some direct sunlight.
I planned on finishing up the polishing with some BG then BW...
Thoughts?
Thanks!
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