Theis Posted April 26, 2012 Share Posted April 26, 2012 Now I know everyone says to wait 12 hours before layering over it but if I have to drive before those 12 hours then what?....and do you truly have to wait 12 hours to put some buttery on top? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corners Posted June 3, 2012 Share Posted June 3, 2012 You can layer sealant Tks Jay. I remember reading a post a long time ago where somebody stated that you can do a number of different things with different products - you don't always have to follow every instruction - or words to that effect. Now I know what I can or can't do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
camaro Posted June 3, 2012 Share Posted June 3, 2012 The sealants will give you protection. Polishing gives you shine. (ok, done channeling Junkman) (ok, done channeling Junkman) ?????????????????? Meaning? Use this YouTube channel wisely my friend And your Point - My Friend???????????????????????? The JunkMan often emphasizes the jobs of each of the detailing chemicals used. Sealants protect the paint. That's it. That is its job. Protect the paint. I look at it this way: Polishes: Fixes paint (smoothing out/correcting swirls etc.) Sealants: Puts a coat on the now perfect paint so that future damage won't ensue Glazes: Adds wet-look and some micro filling properties Waxes: Final step of protection and adds gloss to look Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
camaro Posted June 3, 2012 Share Posted June 3, 2012 Also there may be some crumbs in the keyboard, your question mark key seems stuck Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corners Posted June 3, 2012 Share Posted June 3, 2012 The JunkMan often emphasizes the jobs of each of the detailing chemicals used. Sealants protect the paint. That's it. That is its job. Protect the paint. I look at it this way: Polishes: Fixes paint (smoothing out/correcting swirls etc.) Sealants: Puts a coat on the now perfect paint so that future damage won't ensue Glazes: Adds wet-look and some micro filling properties Waxes: Final step of protection and adds gloss to look Thank you. I realize that but I have never, until tonight, gave any thought as to what would happen if you put one sealant down and then the other on top. And then flip that around at a later day - another detail. Curious as to what would happen is all I was asking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corners Posted June 3, 2012 Share Posted June 3, 2012 Also there may be some crumbs in the keyboard, your question mark key seems stuck Yea, it does that under whatever situations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
camaro Posted June 3, 2012 Share Posted June 3, 2012 Thank you. I realize that but I have never, until tonight, gave any thought as to what would happen if you put one sealant down and then the other on top. And then flip that around at a later day - another detail. Curious as to what would happen is all I was asking. You can layer sealant Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corners Posted June 3, 2012 Share Posted June 3, 2012 You can layer sealant When you say layer sealant, do you mean putting two or more coats of the "same" sealant on? Or, getting back to my original question, can one layer two "different" sealants. Not sure what that would produce but was curious about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveVY Posted June 3, 2012 Share Posted June 3, 2012 You can put QS on top of MSS, well at least I have after the 12 hr cure time for MSS. On my car I didn't really see much difference but do like the QS especially for the leading edges of the car (for bug removal reasons). Since MSS lasts longer than QS, I wouldn't put the longer lasting MSS on top of the shorter life QS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mc2hill Posted June 3, 2012 Share Posted June 3, 2012 When you say layer sealant, do you mean putting two or more coats of the "same" sealant on? Or, getting back to my original question, can one layer two "different" sealants. Not sure what that would produce but was curious about it. Chewy had been putting 2 layers of MSS on his G8 for winter protection, but I believe he has switched to QS, but I don't remember if he is layering that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corners Posted June 3, 2012 Share Posted June 3, 2012 Use this YouTube channel wisely my friend And your Point - My Friend???????????????????????? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corners Posted June 3, 2012 Share Posted June 3, 2012 You can put QS on top of MSS, well at least I have after the 12 hr cure time for MSS. On my car I didn't really see much difference but do like the QS especially for the leading edges of the car (for bug removal reasons). Since MSS lasts longer than QS, I wouldn't put the longer lasting MSS on top of the shorter life QS. Got it. Even though the MSS last longer, I can't seem to quit using the QS. To me it's just a great product. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corners Posted June 3, 2012 Share Posted June 3, 2012 Chewy had been putting 2 layers of MSS on his G8 for winter protection, but I believe he has switched to QS, but I don't remember if he is layering that. I've doubled up with the QS on both vehicles. Getting ready to do a thorough summer detail on both and think I will try a double of the QS on my RAM and then a double of the MSS on the Mercedes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
musclejunkie Posted June 6, 2012 Share Posted June 6, 2012 I MSS'd my Mustang two weeks ago and washed it for the first time yesterday. Yes, it stayed clean for two weeks! Even with a couple rain storms! I can't tell you how happy I am with this product. I've tried out all the hyped up posts about doing this and that, layering this over that. You know ... using the blue stuff first then the FMP or vice versa, followed by the glaze then Americana. The FMP followed by the MSS followed by the Americana a week later....I bought them all and tried them all. Truth is, this time, all I did was wash the car with Adams Shampoo, clay with Adams clay, a quick pass of FMP then the MSS. My car never looked wetter and glossier, using this straightforward, simple method. And it didn't take me 5 days to detail the car either. The MSS is so darn easy to apply and the secret I've found out is to not let it sit on the car doing one panel at a time then wiping off. It just looks fantastic. Again apologize for the no pics. I'm tech stupid. I used to use photobucket but they blocked it on our computers. DRAT! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chewy Posted June 6, 2012 Share Posted June 6, 2012 Chewy had been putting 2 layers of MSS on his G8 for winter protection, but I believe he has switched to QS, but I don't remember if he is layering that. The G8 sits outside ALL day at work and has 2 coats back to back of AQS. I used the MSS on the boat and wave runner though. Works AMAZINGLY well for that. Lasts and lasts too! Chris Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fit08 Posted June 9, 2012 Share Posted June 9, 2012 I MSS'd my Mustang two weeks ago and washed it for the first time yesterday. Yes, it stayed clean for two weeks! Even with a couple rain storms! I can't tell you how happy I am with this product. I've tried out all the hyped up posts about doing this and that, layering this over that. You know ... using the blue stuff first then the FMP or vice versa, followed by the glaze then Americana. The FMP followed by the MSS followed by the Americana a week later....I bought them all and tried them all. Truth is, this time, all I did was wash the car with Adams Shampoo, clay with Adams clay, a quick pass of FMP then the MSS. My car never looked wetter and glossier, using this straightforward, simple method. And it didn't take me 5 days to detail the car either. The MSS is so darn easy to apply and the secret I've found out is to not let it sit on the car doing one panel at a time then wiping off. It just looks fantastic. Again apologize for the no pics. I'm tech stupid. I used to use photobucket but they blocked it on our computers. DRAT! Thinking of heading in this direction as well. I will ask this, do you do entire car then take off as I didn't quite get what you saying about one panel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corners Posted June 10, 2012 Share Posted June 10, 2012 I MSS'd my Mustang two weeks ago and washed it for the first time yesterday. Yes, it stayed clean for two weeks! Even with a couple rain storms! I can't tell you how happy I am with this product. I've tried out all the hyped up posts about doing this and that, layering this over that. You know ... using the blue stuff first then the FMP or vice versa, followed by the glaze then Americana. The FMP followed by the MSS followed by the Americana a week later....I bought them all and tried them all. Truth is, this time, all I did was wash the car with Adams Shampoo, clay with Adams clay, a quick pass of FMP then the MSS. My car never looked wetter and glossier, using this straightforward, simple method. And it didn't take me 5 days to detail the car either. The MSS is so darn easy to apply and the secret I've found out is to not let it sit on the car doing one panel at a time then wiping off. It just looks fantastic. Again apologize for the no pics. I'm tech stupid. I used to use photobucket but they blocked it on our computers. DRAT! Sounds like you have decreased the process time wise. However I am a little confused about what you said here: "the secret I've found out is to not let it sit on the car doing one panel at a time then wiping off. . If you don't mind, could you please explain that. Many Tks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
So.Chi.Goat Posted June 20, 2012 Share Posted June 20, 2012 As far as glaze and Americana, I don't wait at all. Apply glaze, buff off, apply Americana, buff off. Commence face melting. Remotely posted by XQIZT Automotive I didn't know how serious this was until I did it myself.... Spreadin pimpin mobile from tapa son... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corners Posted June 20, 2012 Share Posted June 20, 2012 Sounds like you have decreased the process time wise. However I am a little confused about what you said here: "the secret I've found out is to not let it sit on the car doing one panel at a time then wiping off. . If you don't mind, could you please explain that. Many Tks. Yea, I'm interested in the same thing. Little confused as to what you are talking about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Integrity Detailing, LLC Posted June 20, 2012 Share Posted June 20, 2012 If MSS is hard to buff/wipe off then it was too thick in that area. It only needs just a thin enough layer that you know it's on the panel. I coat the entire vehicle and then start my 20-30 minute countdown (depending on ambient temperature) once done. I'll then dress the undercarriage, tires & address whatever other little details that need attention. Sometimes my client might be watching and they are amazed at how easy MSS buffs/wipes off. Sent from my DROIDX using Tapatalk 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isaacrn Posted May 4, 2012 Share Posted May 4, 2012 So, If you want to put the glaze followed by americana does this mean that you need to do another waterless wash the next day? So many steps, what do people do in the field when detailing other people's cars. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doug123 Posted April 26, 2012 Share Posted April 26, 2012 Yes, the MSW takes some time to cure on the finish. Once that 12 hr time period is finished, you can put the buttery on it. Even put buttery over it on the following weekend, if you like. Often I can only get the MSW on and drive it, so I will top it the following weekend (after a good wash and dry, of course). Edit: Myself, I top it with BG and then Americana for the look. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chewy Posted April 26, 2012 Share Posted April 26, 2012 Yep! I never top right away... I just wait till after the next wash. Buttery is a great wax, but really isn't needed on top of MSS unless you're using the fillers in it to hide some flaws. Chris Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ralfy Posted April 26, 2012 Share Posted April 26, 2012 in the adams instructional vids i dont recall them mentioning a 12-24 hour wait period to add buttery or Americana to the macine super wax? gonna go back and watch the vids to double check but if the experts say so then i shall follow what they say Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chewy Posted April 26, 2012 Share Posted April 26, 2012 in the adams instructional vids i dont recall them mentioning a 12-24 hour wait period to add buttery or Americana to the macine super wax? gonna go back and watch the vids to double check but if the experts say so then i shall follow what they say We ARE the experts! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ralfy Posted April 26, 2012 Share Posted April 26, 2012 of course! i take in everything you guys say! i am still a young grass hopper in the adam's world Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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