A friendly reminder...

[Team Adam's]

Our rules here at AdamsForums.com do not permit the linking of competitors products or websites. While we fully understand that there are a multitude of products on the market this forums function is to serve as an extension of our sales & support and as such is exclusive to our products.

 

Light discussion of other products has been allowed lately and will continue to be, but these topics are to remain free of links, pricing, or solicitation for PM or emails for the express purpose of selling/endorsing those products. They should also remain respectful of the fact that this is, in the end, AdamsForums and not an open detail discussion board for all brands.

 

Additionally, please understand that simply because Adam's does not currently offer a particular product it does not mean we are unaware or ignoring it. In most all cases testing and development are happening behind the scenes. In order for a product to be added to our line it must meet a number of criteria:

 

[*]It must perform to our standards

[*]It must be easy for even novice Detailers to use without error

[*]It must add some benefit over other/existing options

[*]It must be made in the USA

[*]It must make sense financially

 

Only under these conditions will we approve a new product for sale. Sometimes this means a slightly slower development cycle or that a particular product has to be placed on hold until we are comfortable adding it.

 

Rest assured our entire team is always playing with new products, competitors products, etc. If you ever feel there is a product we aren't aware of, a product you're curious why we currently don't offer, or just think you have found something no one else has seen yet please email [email protected] or [email protected]

[lawson4450]

To put it pretty plain and simple my dad used to tell me something as I grew up

 

"As long as you live under my roof you will obey my rules." Look I use some other stuff then adams from time to time I am no expert on what product is better then another I go with Adams because the product does what it says and has the best customer service then any company I have ever dealt with. We are allowed to post and talk about other stuff they ask that we just dont link to another site I dont think its a big deal but we all have our opinions and that is just mine. Carry on.

[Chewy]

Want to know why Mike got banned?

 

For those looking for an alternative to SVRT you may want to consider something like UTTG or PERL.

 

Does that look like a clear violation to the rules posted by Dylan above?

 

Please don't play the martyr here man... You either play by the rules or you face the consequences. Hell my 23 month old is learning these things right now. You be nice and play by our rules or time out. He usually plays by our rules.

 

Unfortunately for those of you not in the "know" we see things here others may miss. Believe it or not, we don't take pleasure in banning people. We talk it through with each other at length and usually give someone a long piece of rope to hang themselves.

[70'sChevyGirl]

^^^That was mean ^^^

[Chewy]

Too late I'm afraid Dylan...

 

The only positive is we're seeing some peoples "true colors" now.

 

Chris

[gencoupe3dot8]

Chris,

I see where I violated the clear no link rule . I also remember a flurry of PMs prior to the ban. That Dylan didn't remember the ban begs the question as to his involvent, although that lends no weight to my case. No worries bro, as long as you feel it was justified, regardless of others mentions of the M word or other products it must have been. If not I have no recourse anyway, if I choose to stay. It's all water under the bridge tho, so we're all good, right?

[gencoupe3dot8]

Too late I'm afraid Dylan...

 

The only positive is we're seeing some peoples "true colors" now.

 

Chris

 

I agree Chris! Thanks for your brutal honesty

[Ralfy]

I love Adams products and buy the shiiiz outta them when I can, I have an addiction to shiny paint and Adams gives me my daily fix, so what if I taste some detail spray here and there no one sees let's just keep on keepin on, like stated above this is Adams house!

[Team Adam's]

Chris,

I see where I violated the clear no link rule . I also remember a flurry of PMs prior to the ban. That Dylan didn't remember the ban begs the question as to his involvent, although that lends no weight to my case. No worries bro, as long as you feel it was justified, regardless of others mentions of the M word or other products it must have been. If not I have no recourse anyway, if I choose to stay. It's all water under the bridge tho, so we're all good, right?

 

I didn't recall a ban where you were removed "WITHOUT EXPLANATION", that doesn't mean I don't remember a ban at all. You were clearly in violation of the rules and understood that, you also stated that when you logged in the message indicated you were banned:

 

I knew a ban was in affect due to the banner I got about telling me not to mention competitive product.

 

Seems like a clear explanation to me, and as I recall this was an ongoing bone you had to pick with the rules that you continued to test the limits of what was allowed. Not sure how much more conversation needed to be had about it... you were in violation of the rules, you knew you were in violation of the rules, the message you received explained that you were banned in regards to that violation.

[LDM]

I guess eventually we'll all look at this and think:

 

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FONN-0uoTHI]Ron Burgundy - That Escalated Quickly - YouTube[/ame]

[Rich]

Well, looks like all the children came out to play in this thread.

 

My opinion? If you don't like the rules or you don't want to play by the rules............then LEAVE! You're not tied here. We don't have you held by chains. And as much as we don't like to lose one or two unsatisfied customers there are always 4 or 5 satisfied customers to take their place.

 

I don't think the rules are over zealous. These are the rules of THIS forum. You're welcome to express your love of product X with all kinds of links anywhere else, but not here because those are the rules. So if you don't like the way this boat sails, jump ship. See ya, bye. We aren't going to waste finger strength typing a ban on anyone.

 

And on that note, I think I'll close this nasty thread. It's run its course.

[Team Adam's]

Guys... please keep this thread respectful of all members and behave like adults. It it gets reduced to name calling and insults this will just be another thread that gets cast into the depths of the Adam's thread purgatory.

[Team Adam's]

I disagree. If anything matters everything matters. Our actions will echo throughout the future as we drag the universe with us into the present.

 

Try not to take life so seriously Mike... After all none of us will make it out of here alive.

[LFairbanks]

I can see both sides of the spectrum. There just has to be a happy medium. Some where in the middle. Extreme left or right is never good. When it comes to humans, finding that happy medium can often be difficult.

[Bill-V8V]

My reply was directed at Brendon and his undying love for all things GM

[jordan572]

But you would have thought it was if it was directed at Chevrolet

 

Ha, I admit it was mean but thats part of the Internet. They can call my car crap it wouldn't hurt my feelings to much but I agree the Adams forum is probably the best forum I am on.

[Feets31]

Hopefully that is sarcasm I am hearing.

[gencoupe3dot8]

I disagree. If anything matters everything matters. Our actions will echo throughout the future as we drag the universe with us into the present.

[Bill-V8V]

I love Adams. I love this forum. I don't see what the big deal is.

 

 

DING DING DING !!!!

 

 

We have a winner :rockon::rockon:

 

 

Last I heard we weren't curing cancer, feeding the hungry or solving the issues in the Middle East. We are just trying to keep our cars clean.

 

 

 

Hooray Beer

[Chase@InsanePaint]

I love Adams. I love this forum. I don't see what the big deal is.

[Feets31]

Airlines: You can't wear that - travel - TODAY.com

 

 

This story talks about company rights.

[Bill-V8V]

WOW, seriously dude?

 

please edit/delete your comment, thats really not cool.

 

 

But you would have thought it was if it was directed at Chevrolet

[Chobbs]

What an interesting thread! I also was able to read most of the other thread that everyone keeps referring to. And I think a large part of the misunderstanding here is..."what is 'Adams forums'?". Once that is defined (I believe it has already been defined) and everyone understands what it is, THEN everyone can discuss the rules in an informed manner always keeping in mind what this forum is.

 

The owner is the one that define what the forum is. Just because a member feels that it has grown into "more than that", does not mean that the forums purpose has actually been redefined.

 

One can contact the owner and/or the moderators to discuss changing its meaning and purpose. But ultimately, it is the owner of the forum that will make the decision.

 

And just because "other personal topics" are allowed does not mean the actual purpose of the forum has changed. It means the owner is allowing some latitude on what is discussed that does not conflict with the original purpose. A "perk" if you will.

 

Recently, I wanted to post something in the lounge section that was near and dear to my heart and I felt it needed to be heard by all. It was deleted and I was contracted right away and was schooled on the purpose of the forum. I was also apologized to. But the rules were the rules and my post would have detracted from the overall purpose of the forum. I understand that and feel that the moderators and the owner are doing a great job of keeping this forum on track. Thank you!

 

 

 

 

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[Marylander]

but see thats the point rich, the adams team shouldn't get overly sensitive when there is criticism over a product or when someone finds something better. If I was the adams team i would take that as "hey guys so and so found a product that seems to be working well" lets take this time to look at what we can make or improve on that is better then that product, but in the meantime lets let an open discussion so others can chime in and we get their opinions.

 

I know, and hear what you're saying. I recall your thread a few months back about the customer that kept coming back to you, asking for you to replace equipment, reinstall stuff, upgrade things, etc (or whatever it was -- I don't recall the specific details). But I know it frustrated the heck out of you, and that issue was private. On the forum those little sparks are all over, and they caflailed up like crazy, all the time. We don't go looking for conversations to kill, but you have realize a lot of times that when it looks like trouble is coming, it's often best to try and contain them before they get insane. A lot of the threads that get closed are taken offline, too, as we generally try to contact the poster and help resolve their concern. Believe me, at the end of the day Adam really does want all his costumers to be happy, but he understands that sometimes it's not just going to be a good fit. As a fellow business owner, I'm sure you can relate to that.

 

Rich

[Green Machine]

I think the one point that wasn't mentioned with the so called thread was the fact that we have to take the good with the bad and that everyone has a different personality. Some people may elaborate on an answer or an opinion while some are just very short and sweet. I honestly think that was the sore point that an opinion was given from a professional detailer and wasn't elaborated on why the opinion was made! It should have been a learning experience for all but manifested into something else. Dylan I think some people took offense to your statement that you have 14 years of super extensive experience detailing I can't recall exactly what you said so I am sorry if this is a mis quote so to speak. We all know your knowledge of the detailing world and if you didn't know as much as you do you would not be working for Adams!!!! I have been detailing cars since I was 17 and now I am 48 so in years I have more experience than you, but you have a more extensive knowledge of what works and doesn't work because it is your area of expertise!!!! Anyway I appreciate what you bring to this world of detailing along with the rest of the team! Yeah and that includes Adam also!

[Team Adam's]

All excellent input and trust me when I say we're listening, but theres something I'd like everyone to keep in mind -

 

Theres is a right way and a wrong way to go about expressing your displeasure for our rules and policies. I've received many a thoughtful and well supported message or email from members who disagree with something. THAT is how you would appropriately express your disagreement. Simply breaking them and snubbing your nose at the rules is not the correct way - all that does is force is to tighten the rules up further and clamp down to make sure the rules are being enforced. Some chose to continue to push that issue further and further, both in their public and private communications to our staff... thus the ban hammer was dropped heavily and the thread killed. In the end, this is a FREE forum to participate and view... as I stated before - If the rules are not to your liking, or you don't feel you can adhere to them you are free to leave. We don't want to turn people away, but rules are rules... if you wish to continue your involvement here you will stick to them as they are currently enforced. Can they change? Certainly... but only at the discretion of Adam's Polishes.

 

Now to further expand on Rich's excellent analogy - of late we've been allowing discussions of other products to go on (the now closed nanoskin thread(s) being an example) the problem is when the membership has been given an inch, you've taken a mile. If the italian restaurant in our example was fine with you talking about the great steak at the other restaurant thats one thing, but you can't expand that to bringing in copies of the menu to give to other customers, setting up a banner with directions to the steakhouse outside, or loudly proclaiming your opinions on why steak is a healthier dinner choice than spaghetti. Get my drift?

 

The other thread was shut down as particular members chose to drag something out rather than respectfully disagreeing. Then chose pick an argument with a staff member, making assumptions about what the staff knows and doesn't know. One particular member will not be coming back b/c he could not simply leave the situation alone and we wish him the best.

 

Whether you've noticed or not, we have somewhat loosened the rules to allow for LIGHT discussion of other products, but we will not allow for links or referrals to other sites in any way shape or form. Those that continue to ignore that rule will be permanently banned from the board. I've tried to work with those of you who have concerns about the rules, but at a certain point I can't play niceguy with everyone while they trample the rules.

 

I'm sure none of us here are ONLY participating in this forum... there are tons of other forums out there where you can get opinions and input on other products. I'd also remind you that the other major detailing forums out there are owned by companies with a vested interest in the products they sell... I suggest you search the Adam's name on any of them and see if we get a fair shake... we're not granted equal 'air time' there no more than they are here... and what little there is typically comes from those with no first hand experience with the products. In a way we have to protect our little part of the internet, just as they protect theirs

 

I didn't go to the dodge dealer looking for a review of the chevy truck I bought before I purchased it.