SouthernSteve

On 10/7/2019 at 8:59 AM, SgtLip said:

Hi All,

I purchased a new Toyota Avalon Hybrid over the weekend. It is unfortunately another white car. I can't seem to get away from having a white car.

 

Anyway, I want to use the Ceramic Spray Coating on the car but figured I better decontaminate first. Do I need to use Iron Remover if I'm going to Clay Bar the car? I can't see any brown spots but that doesn't mean they aren't there. I watched Adam's video for the Iron Remover and he mentioned it is not a replacement for Clay Bar. But I'm not sure if I need to use both.

 

Next question is what type of Clay Bar should I use? Being a new 2020 I figure the "Fine Grade" clay will suffice. I am also looking at the "Visco Clay Bar" but I don't really understand the difference. Which should I use? Since I am going to use Ceramic Spray, what should I use to lubricate the Clay Bar? I have Detail Spray but since I'll be applying Ceramic I was thinking not to use Detail Spray. But then I'm thinking since I'll be using the Ceramic Surface Prep, that should take care of the residue from the Detail Spray, right?

 

Then the process would be to wash, dry, apply Surface Prep, apply Ceramic Spray Coating. Should I use Ceramic Boost after applying the Ceramic Spray or is that not necessary at this point? I already have a bunch of the Ceramic Waterless I'll be using routinely with the Boost every 4-6 weeks.

 

So, do I need to use Iron Remover? Which Clay Bar should I use? Am I correct about the Detail Spray residue being removed by Surface Prep?

 

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That is a good looking car, Donald!  My truck and my wife’s car are both white.  Good Luck with the new ride...👍

10 minutes ago, shooterjgs said:

You late... SouthernSteve

 Guess I didn’t refresh the page...lol

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28 minutes ago, Scooter Trash said:

While our 2014 Chevy SS Sedan gets all the love, sometimes Big Red (my daily) gets left out in the cold.

I spent last weekend showing it some love and getting it ready for winter.

Adam's products used: Car Shampoo, Tire and Rubber Cleaner, Clay Bar, 15mm Swirl Killer Polisher, Correcting Polish with Orange Foam Pad, Finishing Polish with White Foam Pad, Americana Wax, VRT and what I think is the best of all their products because the shine is unbelievable Adam's Brilliant Glaze.

This is my truck I bought new in 1991. After 18 years of waxing and polishing I had it repainted in 2009 because I had waxed the paint off of it. They did not clear coat back in 91 so every polish and wax took a little more paint off of it and after 18 years I was down to the primer in spots.

I took it to a custom car shop in the area with a paint scheme and here is the results. Doesn't not look bad for a 28 year old truck that has never had any body work other than repainted. It is a testament that if you take care of them, keep them washed and waxed they will last a long time. Last year changed the 16" wheels for new 18" GM wheels and here it is.

Rocking it Old School, Larry!   Beautiful and Thank you for sharing...😎

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Welcome Chase!  Hope you guys have a prosperous adventure!!

This has become a favorite of mine too.  I actually tried it as a Rinseless Wash yesterday.  Got the idea while watching YouTube.  My wife’s car is coated with a different company coating, over two years ago, and had two application of CWW.  I did 1 ounce to 1 gallon.  

I also made a 1:1 Detailer out of it using Reverse Osmosis water.  

I believe the key was the layers of ceramic already applied.  When completed , the surface was beyond glossy and slick.  THE CAR WAS DUSTY and a a great candidate for a Rinseless Wash.  We haven’t had rain in a month and are running a near 20” deficit for the year.

Welcome Back!  We moved from N.J., where I lived all my life, to Alabama.  My wife left here 30 years ago.  I’m finding it a little more difficult transitioning than I thought.  

I use to be on the forum too , different name, but came back after trying The Ceramic W.W.

1 minute ago, lawson4450 said:

nice!, yeah I got to get me some of that lol 

You retired yet?  Retired in 2018 and left N.J.

5 hours ago, RayS said:

Since @Yo-Yo Ma's Cousin called me out on the Ceramic Paste Wax, I'm going to include a couple of pictures that you can use for comparison.  The first picture of the truck is about 2 months after I applied CPW and the second picture is from this last weekend when I stripped it and applied Ceramic Spray Coating.  They both look good and the maintenance is pretty much the same, Wash + Coat, Ceramic Waterless Wash and about every 4-6 weeks Ceramic Boost.  In both cases, the preparation is what makes all the difference.

 

The next two pictures are of the Mustang, the first picture being when I applied CPW on January 9th, please excuse the pirate look since we initially received the wrong headlights.  This next picture is from today and it still has the same coat of CPW and has maintenance washes and Ceramic Boost applied.  We're at the 10 month mark and the car is still looking very good and I still have not decided if it is going to be converted to CSC or will stay with CPW.  They are both outstanding products and I'm also old school and enjoy putting the wax on by hand and buffing it off by hand.

 

The second picture of the Mustang shows that it is getting dull, but it has also been two weeks since it was last washed.   The main thing that I want to stress is that no matter what product you use on your vehicle, the better job you do with the prep is the better it will come out.  Just take your time and plan for two days, that way if you get tired or something comes up, you don't end up rushing through it.

 

Just as important, don't hesitate to ask questions, we all enjoy sharing our experiences, good and bad, and helping others.

 

Ray,

The both finishes  look like I could dip my fingers into the paint!

7 hours ago, Yo-Yo Ma's Cousin said:

Hey there. Yeah it can be pretty confusing. There’s a lot of options. But to start from the top. Ceramics are a newer form of protection (old school protection would be considered wax). They have much longer longevity and increased performance in terms of the protection they provide As compared to other protection products.

 

Ceramic products are fully synthetic as opposed to waxes which have natural ingredients in them like carnuba and other things. Waxes are normally a substance that you lay on top of your paint. A ceramic coating is actually meant to bond and adhere to the paint. 
 

the purpose of having a ceramic coating in short is to protect from rain, sun, contamination and other exterior elements that can really mess up a vehicles finish. Also it makes it so much easier to clean. Water and dirt don’t like to stick to the surface. 

 

So the products that you have mentioned and Adams has in their line up are:

 

Ceramic Paint Coating

Ceramic Spray Coating

Ceramic Liquid Wax

and Ceramic Paste Wax

(as well as the SiO2 infused things, which would be considered maintenance products for a ceramic coated vehicle... they also have other procura like trim coating and wheel coating and glass coating and headlight and metal wipes, if you have any questions about those we can answer them separately, here I’m just trying to explain the big ones that are the most talked about)

 

Ceramic Paint Coating is a true coating. It is the most durable and robust protection that Adams carries overall. It is also the most involved in terms of application. You have to work in small sections (2’x2’) all the way around the car. And the cure time is 24 hours. It provides a pretty thick coating, though, and because of that it can last up to 2+ years. It is meant only for your painted surfaces. (As I listed above they have a separate product for glass, trim, and wheels)

 

Ceramic Spray Coating is also a true coating, but made in a way that is much easier for somebody to apply. You can work in larger sections like say a panel or a half a panel at a time, and it’s in spray form which is easier for the person doing the work. It has a cure time of 4-6 hours and it leaves a coating which is a fraction of the thickness of the Ceramic Paint Coating. The longevity in this product is around 6-8 months. You can use Ceramic Spray Coating on almost anything. It works great on glass, trim, convertible tops, Wheels, plastic... I even tried it on my shoes (not worth it).... I love this product

 

Ceramic Liquid and Paste Waxes are actually not coatings. They are synthetic waxes which are infused with the active ingredient in ceramic coatings (SiO2). The difference in the two products as far as I know is a small difference in the SiO2 content (CPW with 35% and CLW with 30%) and one is just in a liquid form and one is in paste wax form. So really it just depends on the person applying and which type of wax they prefer. Ceramic liquid wax is newer, so I’m not sure about it’s longevity, but i applied mine over my ceramic spray coating and the seems to be going 3.5 months strong right now. The Ceramic Paste Wax has been around a little while and people love it. It’s said to lSt 6-8 months, but I’ve heard it could last up to a year! I call @RayS to the stand.

make sure to keep both waxes in the paint. I thought I could use my CLW on other surfaces and it wasn’t pretty. But the paint looked great!!

 

also I didn’t even mention the visual effects all of these products have. all of them look amazing on a vehicle.

 

hope this helps! Please let us know any other questions you may have.

Thanks for the detailed post, Juan!  I’ve been doing a lot of reading and searching on the forum about the Ceramic Coating or CSC.  My truck will be due soon for a new coating application.  I’m thinking of just going with the 2 year plus coating but open.  I looking at it this way...since I’m going to be doing all that work, have the ability to let the truck  sit for 24 hours, and the brutal Alabama sun.  Although the truck is garage kept.

Again, thank you for the detailed post.

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3 hours ago, SgtLip said:

 

Good eye, Yes. 2018 Subaru Forester 2.0XT to be exact.

My wife has the Impreza.  I wish I didn’t listen to my neighbor and bought the Crosstrek.

With that said, last year while traveling , we had an issue with the Impreza while in Lancaster County, PA.  We stopped at a Subaru dealer to get the car fixed.  While heading to the customer waiting room, they had a Forrester with a 2.5 “ lift,  black wheels, and BFG’s.   Told my wife that’s my next ride. 

Hey Eric!  I’m in the Wiregrass...

1 hour ago, SgtLip said:

Yesterday I washed the engine compartment and wheels. It got too hot so I held off washing and HGG today. Looks pretty nice.

Is that a Subaru Forrester?

A friend of mine, who suggested I try it, also has a Ceramic coated truck and absolutely agrees! 

Good Day All,

Just wanted to show off my wife’s 2013 Impreza after the 2 time using the Ceramic w.w.  The base is a coating, I applied over two years ago.  I have used another brand but after using Adam’s, the pop and gloss is far better.  

I also noticed that the product rejects dust and airborne contamination better too.  We haven’t had any appreciable rain in nearly a month...

This product is a winner.   

Thanks!

Howdy gang!

I use to be on here years ago when I lived in N.J. as fdresq4.  I had even attended a session that was held by a member here at the time,  @lawson4450

Anyway, a friend introduced me to the new Si02 Waterless wash recently and figured I would jump back on!

Thanks!

Thank you, Ray, for the detailed write up and pics.  The Chevy looks radiant!  I was following this since my truck’s  coating, over 4 years old and was a professional one, is starting to show signs of coming to an end.  

Ive been torn between another coating or try the wax....🤔  

one reason for not going with the professional coating sting is that the brand I had on is not offered in the area we moved to and the local guy who does professional coatings has never called back.  I can do a coating myself but was contemplating a switch.  Now more decisions with your post here...😁

Good afternoon everyone,

Use to post here a long time ago, as fdresq4.   Anyway, I recently tried the Si02 W.W. on a friend’s recommendation.  My truck was coated 4 years ago with a different company coating but here are some pics after two applications of the Si02 W.W.  

Thanks for looking!