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ok so I got my Revive and went at doing a test spot on my black Camaro.

 

I feel like I must have done something wrong because the result was it actually made it worse. My test spot on my hood now has significant swirling under direct sunlight and I am SAD.

 

Maybe I did something wrong?

 

Here is what I did.

 

1) Two bucket wash, twice

2) Claybar until smooth to the baggie test

3) Revive - (wanted to see if this alone would remove the micro swirls, it didnt)

4) So then I hit a small spot with the Swirl and Haze, following the directions by not removing, and then did a pass with Revive

5) The result was significant increased swirling

Bingo.... you need to use Fine Machine Polish after swirl and haze NOT revive!

now I am in panic....

 

6) Did another pass with Revive a few times not using a circular motion but back and forth strokes in alternate directions.

 

7) Brilliant Glaze

8) Buttery Wax

 

It looks better, but I still have swirling worse than when I started.

 

Did I do something wrong, where do I go from here?

 

Do I need to invest in a PC to correct this and fix my original problem? I am now more scared than ever that the PC will swirl my paint... as I did my hand passes with the S&H I could feel the grit and it made me cringe but I figured the result would be OK. It wasnt.

 

Later in the day I went to a Camaro show (Delaware Riverfront) and was picking the brains of some guys that had nice black paint. They all said different things, the one guy that had the "best" black paint told me I would have to wet sand with 2000 grit sandpaper!!!!

 

Frankly all the black cars there had imperfect paint with micro-scratches, maybe I am just not being realistic in thinking I can keep her "like new" after a year??

 

HELP!!

The BG and Butter would HIDE some of the swirls hence why you seen some improvement.

Now that is a huge turn around! WOuld like to have seen the owners face.

The scratch, did you use only the flex or did you wet sand as it looked deep?

This may be a dumb question, but could there be a health risk of breathing in quick sealant when spraying in an enclosed garage?

Funny, I thought the same thing when "fogging" as it is heavy and you can "feel it in your lungs" I was coughing some. So in my opion it can't be good for you.

I changed to the apply on pad approach no fogging, waste of product as well I think. If one was going to fog a resporiator (sp) of some sort might not be a bad idea.

I have a road trip coming up, and hear that QS really helps release the bugs, so going to put a coat on the front end before I leave. Last time I threw on a coat of Buttery and it helped a lot. Will report back on the results after the trip...

Yes, I just tried this before my road trip. Bugs do still require some elbow grease to get off but not as much. Now on the hood (treated with quick sealant)were birb bombs found themselfs they came off with ease using waterless wash.

Hey those of you guys that wish you got a flex, might be in luck. I Will be selling mine once I get the Spindle/Shaft replaced and do some maintenance on it...Keep you eyes open

And then what another flex?

use this stuff

 

 

BEFORE YOU make the connection.

Is this just typical anti sieze compound?

Not sure what you mean by eliminate the swirls, but it is cool how DS's will leave *something* behind that causes beading. The DS's that I use do the same thing which causes me to be careful in trusting how well my LSP is doing.

I see were one might get confused, sorry. What I was trying to convey was lots of detail spray to aid in allowing the towel to not swirls the paint.

Hope that helps.

I agree with Corners answer post # 2.

My car, a Honda Fit I found you really have to work the water trap areas an even then when you move the car more water is found. SO save time not really, cool factor yes. DO you still need a towel? YES unless you are doing a 1/2 hour dry with blower.

This is a small bone I have with the MB and that is we still use towels. I thought it was to save touching the paint? With that said how else would one get the detail spray on which looks great after with toweling.

Now trying wheels well its the bomb!!

Nice looking town.

I was thinking the same thing only down south sort of thing. If that main street continues longer then the pics shows with the layout in the photo I would think it would look beautiful.

This one is a no brainer, GET IT!!

If you pool rinse and detail spray you will be amazed at the shine as well as the lack of water left behind, also swirls should be less with proper use of towel and such.

This towel is so good I bought four.

I just found somthing rather neat.

My wife's car has vitually no protection left on the roof and sides of the car. I've been slowly working on corections as time permits. So, the other day I did a wash and noticed the above areas had no beading what so ever (other then hood and trunk corrected). I did a GWT and heavy detail spray wipe down to eliminate swirls on entire car.

The areas with no good protection are beading water just as well as a fresh coat of americana! Yes it will not last and no protection but the point is I was amazed at the beading.

If you have the wash pads, they brush out really well without shedding. Now, if you have a sidekick or a MB, you can inspect your pad or mit by "blowing":confused: the pad and seperating the fibers, and it makes them really easy to inspect.

Well, looks like the master blaster will get double duty... new wash mitt on shelf is going into action as well.

Don't minimize the importance of a 2-bucket pre-rinse to get most of the non-bonded contaminants off, this will help you later on. A foam cannon...dwell....rinse....then begin 2-bucket is what I do "most" of the time to get a good portion of the debris off.

Always try and knock heavy dirt off. DO have a cheap (garden sprayer) I use a a foam gun sometimes, may need to get this back in action. WOuld like a foram canon but no power washer yet. This hobby is getting expensive!

Thoughts are...we do everything we can do to "minimize" the damage. If you do a two bucket every week like I do, especially on the wife's DD, then at some point, you are going to inflict some damage. All it takes is the smallest bit of contamination on the wash media. I've noticed half way through my 2 buckets before, the smallest piece of debris on the pad. Soooo, where it would take you 1 wash to ruin all your hard work during a paint correction with improper technique, with proper technique it may be 20 washes. Then, all you'll need is a quick touch-up with some FMP, and your're good.

Well said, I suspect I may have some "dirt" eluding the mitt inspections. Yes, the FMP quicky does the trick. I like this part not the big 3 step work out!

I don't care who you are, eventually you're going to have to correct you're paint again. If anyone can tell me they do 52 (random number) 2 bucket washes per year on their vehicle, and it looks like the day they did a full correction on it....don't think I would believe them:willy:

Good to see that yes you will need to give attention to the paint more then you would think and the more anal you are the more the pain involved in keeping it swirl free.

How many towels did you treat? If it was a few in each load yes, thats too much... if you treated a bunch of towels then maybe not.

 

EDIT - also didn't see you're using 4oz in the wash... too much! Don't they teach you guys to read up there in Canada?

 

I just had a discussion with a neighbour about swirsl and washing. Bottom line I think is they don't understand don't wish to understand so onword!

It is so funny people say "man I like your car so clean and shiny" What do you do?

You start to explain and they say the heck with that, to much work.

So, I'm finding it very hard to believe on a DD we are not introducing "wash swirls" (very small, mind you ) into our freshly corrected paint.

Has anyone really paid attention in the sun after a first wash after a full paint correction to the swirls if any?

I use two bucket wash, grit guards and all the goods. Dry GWT detail spary and the like.

My point I can't believe when one looks at the paint that it is 100% corrected still (AFTER WASH). NO, the paint was flawless both in sun and lights beforehand.

Garage queen, yes I could see no issues. Just seems on DD you will see some swirls. Point, this is what we all must learn to live with from what I see otherwise one would be P!!!ED after every paint correction and first couple of washes.

Any thoughts?

So, what is the outcome? Did you remove snap ring and replace the spindle back into area and replace snap ring?

One thing not mentioned during the polsihing process, was the process itself!

Did you use SSH>SHR>FMP with wipedown (and, with what) prior to wax/sealant?

Two full days spent like 10 hour days?

Yes, I am. But I didn't think there was that many of swirls where it would need more than a pass of SHR and a pass of FMP. I also remember seeing a bunch of threads that state they can never get their black paint 100% swirl free. So I just settled with that. It really doesn't look bad at all. At least in my eyes

But you must admit when you see some mild swirls after your first wash you feel sick, especially after a 10 hour polish.

Great detail dude!!!

I like the write up as well. Photos of before andafter are great. Why? Because the same angle was used for both, this I like as it it is a true representation on the area in question.

Incredible

Hey Anthony,

That clay was pretty nasty looking! Was that your weekend project for your Dad?

I wonder, how long did it take you to complete?

Nice work....

After giving the fit a bath today and my apllication of Butter wax almost a month ago, I think I really like the shine it give the white!!

I had supersealant on and americana but it seems this butter is rather pleasing to the eyes, I'm very surprised!

I love these cars! Bluegencoupe has one as well blue and it is sweet as well!

I like the blacked out look!

Wanted to make sure i had everything to get rid of the swirls and to make it shine.

I just done my wifes trunck lid with the flex I just bought and man was I impressed !!

I divided the lid into two portions and did one pass with FMP and took a look and I was off and running over to my neighbours to show him! Just this one pass in like 10 minutes would have taken me 3-4 PC passes with SHR in the mix.

My nieghbour is buying one.

Now mind you this is on a toally flat suface no ridges or curves but I can only think with care one would have no issues with the flex here.

I should have done this long ago, BUY A FLEX!!