That's true, I guess I was expecting something with more IPA kick, so my expectations were higher. I think the only one I really like from Sam Adams is the classic lager. You are right about stones ruination, awesome beer! If you like really dark beers, check out Old Viscosity, I've only been able to get it out on the west coast, so you might be able to find it. Now I warn, by dark, I mean when you pour it in a glass you won't see anything through it. But it's pretty good!