j-r35 Posted March 22, 2015 Share Posted March 22, 2015 So was browsing the site and only see the orange 7" mf pad available not the white? Is it no longer available or out of stock? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Dan@Adams Posted March 22, 2015 Share Posted March 22, 2015 I think I read either on here or somewhere on facebook or Instagram that they are low on stock and reevaluating if they want to keep offering it since some customers like to use just the white 7" foam pad for finishing. I can't find where I saw it now though, as it was around 4am this morning when I noticed it in a zombie-like state while getting ready to head to the airport Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 TheWolf Posted March 22, 2015 Share Posted March 22, 2015 I think I read either on here or somewhere on facebook or Instagram that they are low on stock and reevaluating if they want to keep offering it since some customers like to use just the white 7" foam pad for finishing. I can't find where I saw it now though, as it was around 4am this morning when I noticed it in a zombie-like state while getting ready to head to the airport Here it is (from the 48hr sale thread). Its low on inventory at the moment, and we're actually considering fazing it out b/c most people prefer to finish with foam over the MF. We're all about simple and having 2 finish pad options when 1 will do in most all cases seems the way to go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Dan@Adams Posted March 22, 2015 Share Posted March 22, 2015 See, I knew someone would find it...I'm still in jet-lag-sleep-deprived-mode Thanks other Dan. TheWolf 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 BigBlue2007 Posted March 28, 2015 Share Posted March 28, 2015 Is the white microfiber pad the same as the orange in cut? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Beemer Posted March 28, 2015 Share Posted March 28, 2015 Nope. The orange has more cut. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 BigBlue2007 Posted March 28, 2015 Share Posted March 28, 2015 (edited) I like the white pad personally. Edited March 28, 2015 by BigBlue2007 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 jimdavis30 Posted March 30, 2015 Share Posted March 30, 2015 I bought a lot of product last week and included in it was supposed to be the white microfiber 7" pad. Needless to say it didn't come. What did come in it's place was a black foam microfiber pad. One little difference though - there's about a 1" hole in the middle of it all the way through the pad. My thought is if I use this, product will get slung up inside the pad and onto my backing plate. Really don't want product on my backing plate - it's more effective on the car. Am I missing something? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Team Adam's Posted March 31, 2015 Share Posted March 31, 2015 The hole is there for cooling purposes actually. If you have a flex you'll note the center bolt gets very hot. As far as product slinging into the backing plate - shouldn't be a concern. The force of the movement is going to push product to the edges, not towards the middle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 jimdavis30 Posted March 31, 2015 Share Posted March 31, 2015 PC 7424XP. Thanks, I may give it a try. I looked at the pad selection on the site, and of course they still have the white foam microfiber listed, but the black foam microfiber isn't. I wonder why that is. I'm new to the paint correct world, but it's my understanding that there is something different about the foam that, while you have a microfiber layer on it, the foam underneath really does make a difference. That's why you have orange foam for cutting (and using with the orange product), white foam for finishing, and the black foam for your machine sealant and wax. If the color of the foam is irrelevant when it's a microfiber on top, then an orange foam microfiber should work just fine with the paint finishing polish. What am I missing here? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Team Adam's Posted March 31, 2015 Share Posted March 31, 2015 Jim, The microfiber facing itself is also different and the ppi differentiation between the gray and white foam is minimal. The gray/black is technically a tiny bit less rigid than the white so if anything its ability to finish clean would be even better than the white, but again the difference between the 2 is negligible. As mentioned above the white foam is in short supply and we're honestly considering phasing it out due to how little it is used by our customers. We certainly wouldn't send you a product we didn't feel was equivalent if we didn't believe it was capable of the process its designed for. The black foam version is a stop gap that offers equivalent performance and basically a solution for now while we get the next generation of polishing system lined up for later this year. Its low on inventory at the moment, and we're actually considering fazing it out b/c most people prefer to finish with foam over the Microfiber. We're all about simple and having 2 finish pad options when 1 will do in most all cases seems the way to go. If you'd like to return the pad you have for credit towards something else we'd be happy to make that happen for you. Truth is an overwhelming percentage of our customers have told us they don't use the white microfiber and prefer to finish with the white foam anyways which is the reason its removal from the line is being considered. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 jimdavis30 Posted April 1, 2015 Share Posted April 1, 2015 Thanks Dylan. I went ahead and used it yesterday to see if it makes a difference. I followed the videos for paint correct, and in them all 4 pads are used. I started out and did half the car with just the orange microfiber, followed by the orange foam, then the white foam, and not all the swirls and scratches were coming out (ones that pass the fingernail test). In the video he used the white microfiber before the white foam, so I added that step yesterday. Sad to say, I didn't really see any improvement in results. I know my technique and speed is good - I go significantly slower than in the video. What I did see at the end of the session was a nice white ring in the middle of my backing plate that doesn't come off courtesy of the hole in the middle of the pad. I will talk with your shipping department about returning it. Figure that can go toward some more detail spray. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Team Adam's Posted April 1, 2015 Share Posted April 1, 2015 Interesting. Would love to see some pics of what you're working on and some before/afters to get an idea. The PC is limited in some regards to what it can accomplish. Not a bad tool, but it does have a ceiling on its capability compared to more modern tools like the Flex or Rupes so additional passes might be necessary. The fingernail test isn't exactly scientific - some swirls are simply deeper than others and require a few more passes, but thats more to do with your CORRECTION stages (orange pads) not finishing stages.My advice would be to hit the remaining damage again with the appropriate combo before jumping to the finishing combo and make sure you're making enough headway on the damage before you try a combo that is designed to refine light marks and haze.As far as the polish on the backing plate - that has me baffled. I'm looking at cabinet full of tools in my office, all that have been used for extensive new pads designs (all with center holes) and the most any of these tools has on it is polish dust - which I can remove simply by blowing on it.In any event, if its not for you not going to try and convince you otherwise. Shoot our customer service team an email with the particulars and we'll sort you out. orders@adamspolishes.com BTW - what video are you using as a reference? These would be the appropriate reference for your Porter Cable - not sure what other video you're looking at. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 jimdavis30 Posted April 1, 2015 Share Posted April 1, 2015 Thanks, I just used the videos you get when you go to the main page and go to paint correction. Unfortunately, from the main page there is nothing indicating there are different videos for the Porter Cable. That would be a good idea to have up. I'm not even sure how you get to that page from the main page. Perhaps your website designer could, when you select the category you are looking at (in this case paint correction), have it take you to a page where you select the machine you are using. Maybe have a picture of the different machines. The person selects the picture which then takes them to the correct video. Not sure how many videos for how many different machines you have. I would guess you have one for Griot's as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Team Adam's Posted April 1, 2015 Share Posted April 1, 2015 Since we don't sell the Porter Cable at this time its really not a product we'll produce a ton of content for or host on our site. Definitely won't be doing it for a machine manufactured and sold under the banner of one of our competitors either. I'm sure you understand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 j-r35 Posted April 5, 2015 Author Share Posted April 5, 2015 Dylan, you say a new polishing system coming out this year? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 cammyfive Posted April 21, 2015 Share Posted April 21, 2015 I'm in support of phasing out the white MF pads. I've never had ideal results on any of the paint I've worked with when finishing down with them; they always leave a bit of haze that was frustrating. Full disclosure: I really don't care to work with MF pads at all unless the paint is truly hammered and you're starting a saw session on it, for me, foam is my go to 90-95% of the time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Furious Shine Posted April 21, 2015 Share Posted April 21, 2015 As a detailer I could live without the White MF. When I have used it, I have needed to follow with the foam anyways. On my paint corrections with hard clear coat , I use Orange MF and then finish with White Foam. Softer clears, all foam! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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So was browsing the site and only see the orange 7" mf pad available not the white? Is it no longer available or out of stock?
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