Proper use of the Waterless Car Wash

[TR6speed]

OK, I have a question. I watched the Junkman’s video the other day on the proper use of the WCW. He applied a layer of dust to his pristine black Vette by blowing the garage floor with a leaf blower. He then applied a nice heavy coat of the WCW and then wiped it off. His point was to show that would cause scratches in the paint. He recommends removing all the dust with a California Duster prior to using the WCW. He also states that you should never go back and forth with the towel only in one direction. Now I have a lot of respect for the Junkman and what he contributes to us. His black Corvette is absolutely beautiful, but I also must say, that his car in the video was already detailed and did not need the WCW.

 

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I understood that the product was designed for those in between soap and water washes, when the car had minor dirt and dust on it. That it was formulated with special lubricants that encapsulated the dirt so it would not scratch the finish. I have used it after I had the car out for a ride, or if I got caught in the rain and needed to get the water spots off. I applied a liberal coat and then wipe it off usually in a back and forth motion never in a circular motion.

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Now for the interesting part, I just watched the new Adam’s video on the use of the WCW. Adam used in on a Ferrari 430 that had some dirt and dust on it and the wheels. He did it exactly as I do. So what procedure is correct? I am thinking that if you do not have a good coat of wax on the car and you try and use it as I do, you may cause some scratches, but with a good coat of wax and a well maintained vehicle, the procedure I use as well as the one in Adam's video is perfectly all right.<o:p></o:p>

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Waiting for you experts to clear this up.<o:p></o:p>

[Chris@Adams]

Ok, Personally when I have a lite dusting I use DS, when the dusting is heavier I use WCW. When I get caught in the rain, full two bucket wash . With a little practice you will know what product and when to use it.

[Sooners]

In my experience, if I don't use the CCD before taking a waterless wash or detail spray to the car, I end up just pushing a lot of the dust around, and it gets to be quite annoying. I solved this by getting my hands on a CCD.

 

As far as when to use which one, this has pretty much been touched upon, but I use a WW when the car isn't so dirty that it necessarily needs a car wash or a car wash isn't feasible, but when I feel it's too dirty for just a DS. My knowledge of WWs are that they have more lubrication than a DS, which is why they're recommended for more than light dust, finger smudges, etc. As mentioned, the WWs focus on cleaning and are not meant to improve the shine.

 

The DSs are meant to bring back that just waxed look. Also, from what I've read over the years, using a DS helps to prolong the durability of whichever product you applied for protection. When a DS isn't easily applied/removed, that's usually an indication that it's time to apply some more protection.

[Junkman2008]

Adam, Thanks, that actually explained a lot!

 

I agree. I was waiting on Brutha P's input. Although my WW seems to leave more shine. Maybe I got a special bottle or my imagination is running away with me!

[rha600]

Adam, Thanks, that actually explained a lot!

[NightMare Silverado]

I dont detail to be "cost effective" I go through the touchless wash then use WCW and about 4 blue mf towels to dry the car then use DS and a few towels to give it a good shine.

[Adam]

Hey Gang!

 

This is a great question, and I've got different uses for each product, and situations and vehicles to use one or the other. Here goes:

 

Waterless Car Wash, all year on my daily driver. When? After I go to the coin-operated/ cc-operated self wash in the winter, after driving in rain, snow, mud, or muck.

 

In the summer, I use our Waterless Wash on my driver instead of washing with water.

 

On my fun car, which only gets out when the weather is nice, to a show, or a nice cruise, I mostly use Detail Spray.

 

Why?

 

Detail Spray adds more shine, but requires an extra swipe or two. It has more glossing agents, but less lubricants. Detail Spray also costs about 25% more, both to make, and to buy.

 

Waterless Wash is slightly more lubricated, and has less glossing agents. It's not intended to create the maximum shine, rather, it's meant to be a more cost effective, and easier way to wipe down a vehicle that gets driven frequently, and dirtied often.

 

Waterless Wash is effective when used on dirtier vehicles, and, is quicker to wipe to perfect. Waterless Wash is less expensive by design!

 

Removing dirt from a perfect finish is difficult to do without micro-marring, or adding very slight scratches. (Washing with Shampoo and water, Waterless Wash, and our Detail Spray, will all have the possibility of scratching, if not used gently, on a reasonably clean (grit-free) finish.

 

Want it simpler?

 

Detail Spray = Mist, wipe, wipe, wipe, wipe

 

Waterless Wash = Mist, wipe, wipe.

 

Make sense?

 

I hope so, and I certainly feel and recognize the need for both products, only typically, it's on different vehicles.

 

Merry Christmas!!

 

-Adam:patriot:

 

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Chapter 7 - Waterless Car Wash

[Chris@Adams]

more lub than DS so I have another question.Can we use WCW with the clay bar?Seeing that it is a more effective cleaner, my thinking would be it would loosen up more imbedded stuff on your clear coat so claying would be more effective.

 

 

Yes you can use WCW as a lube for claying, more effective than DS, I don't know.

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Why Go Waterless?

How is it different than our Detail Spray? The Waterless Wash is a more effective cleaner, and has more lubricant designed to remove larger dirt particles without damage to your finish.

 

 

more lub than DS so I have another question.Can we use WCW with the clay bar?Seeing that it is a more effective cleaner, my thinking would be it would loosen up more imbedded stuff on your clear coat so claying would be more effective.

[MSUGTO]

but see that's just it. on the videos he shows removing just about all the dust with the duster, at which point you could just use the DS?

 

I've done this before myself, didn't see any harm in it either. I figured once I got the dust off with the California Duster, I'd just go over my car with some DS. After watching his videos I now know how to use the ol' California Duster properly!

[11chevz71]

What every works for you guys that is what i would do:thumbsup:

[Natch02]

Well im sure the man himself will chime in on this topic!!

[Bill-V8V]

but see that's just it. on the videos he shows removing just about all the dust with the duster, at which point you could just use the DS?

 

 

Yes you could, there is one other difference between the two products. The DS does enhance the shine, and to do that it does leave something behind. Think of it like a thin thin layer of polymer. After many many applications it can cause some minor build up. WCW does not leave anything behind

[TR6speed]

Yes, Junkman did remove the dust he self induced with the blower to demonstrate a point that you could scratch the finish with that amount of dust on the car. He recommends that the car be dusted with the California Duster first. It just so happens his car did not in need to be washed. But I am sure there are times when you have a substantial amount of dust on the car, yet it also has some minor dirt and possible bird droppings that need to be removed. This is an excellent time for the WCW.<?xml:namespace prefix = o ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com<img src=" /><o:p></o:p>

What my OP was about, was not the issue of when do you us the WCW compared to the DS, but the correct procedure to use it. Junkman says to spray it on and wipe in one direction. In Adam's video, he is wiping back and forth. Both tell you to fold the towel multiple times and to check it after each wiped area and turn it if there is dirt on the towel. I do this, and if the car was in need of a WCW there will be dirt on the towel. I normally use two towels to do my 2001 Vette.<o:p></o:p>

[rha600]

but see that's just it. on the videos he shows removing just about all the dust with the duster, at which point you could just use the DS?

[DP 08 GXP]

...its like your reading my mind and it is kinda scary lol

[rha600]

well we know what that says, but we mean how is it different in what AJ has said and what even others are saying about it and how to use it. It seems that how people say it should be used isn't really any different than how we'd use the DS.

[Chris@Adams]

Difference between DS & WCW.

 

 

 

 

 

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Why Go Waterless?

 

 

Your car doesn’t always need a full bath with soap and water. Save water, less sloppy, easier, and it's quicker!

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Special lubricants and wetting agents encapsulate dirt, and make it easy to clean without water.<o:p></o:p>

How is it different than our Detail Spray? The Waterless Wash is a more effective cleaner, and has more lubricant designed to remove larger dirt particles without damage to your finish.

[DP 08 GXP]

IF the only time we can use it is after getting all the dust off the car like int he video then I'd just assume use the DS. It just seems that we'd only need one or the other and that there is no need for both?

 

i would like an answer to that also.

[rha600]

I use the one pass like he does because in my head (which is of course always correct, haha) I picture it being really bad and rubbing the dirt into the paint. I did this even before listening to AJ or watching the videos.

[TR6speed]

I think, but I cannot really answer for the Junkman, but I believe he was trying to demonstrate the loose dust must be removed prior to using the WCW. The WCW wash would then be fine to get the stuck on dirt.

 

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My question was, the proper way to use it, as far as the gentle back and forth motion, that I have used since I first started to use it, or his way of one pass one direction.<o:p></o:p>

[rha600]

IF the only time we can use it is after getting all the dust off the car like int he video then I'd just assume use the DS. It just seems that we'd only need one or the other and that there is no need for both?

[DP 08 GXP]

i guess it would help me if someone can explain the difference between when to use QD and WCW

[Chris@Adams]

Trust me it is well worth it. I use it regularly. In fact I just finished washing the car after a cruise last nignt. I only had a little road dirt on in (not dirt road dirt), a few bugs on the nose and minor droppings from what I call bee droppings. That is what I use it for. I would never use it if the car was nasty dirty. After a light rain to remove the spots is fine also. I use it for those in between complete wash jobs.

 

 

I use it all the time on my black cars, it slicks the paint up, and dust doesn't seem to stick as bad. It is a great product!

[TR6speed]

Trust me it is well worth it. I use it regularly. In fact I just finished washing the car after a cruise last nignt. I only had a little road dirt on in (not dirt road dirt), a few bugs on the nose and minor droppings from what I call bee droppings. That is what I use it for. I would never use it if the car was nasty dirty. After a light rain to remove the spots is fine also. I use it for those in between complete wash jobs.

[DP 08 GXP]

i know that you arent supposed to use the waterless wash when there is the grime on there. it needs washed. im just having a hard time figuring out if buying the waterless wash is worth it. lets say i have some dust on my car and no grime...i use the duster like A.J. showed and there is little to no dust left, why not just use the QD to get the rest of whats left and call it a day. it almost seems like a unneccesary step to waterless wash it or am i wrong and someone can clear up my confusion. :willy: