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The hills are alive, with the sound of music!

The hills are alive, with the sound of music!

Just so everyone knows, this was put on hold for a little while, but we are still evaluating, and I do believe Adam plans on testing out a newest version this weekend to possibly introduce as a part of a professional line of products later down the road. Stay tuned for any updates

Great concept! However I'm not too fond of any wash or dry medium "on a steeeek" when cleaning paint and here's why...
 
By constructing something like what is pictured it essentially become a lever and the physics of a lever is to exert a magnified output force from a smaller input force.
 
A lever is the simplest machine that has two material parts and two working components such as a beam or solid rod, a fulcrum or pivot point, an input force (or effort in this case) and an output force. Think of when you have to pry a nail out of a board using a crowbar. Little force input is given for a magnified resistance force to lift the nail.
 
By using a wash wedge or mitt that is extended on a pole, the force exerted at the output end (wash wedge) has the potential to be greater than the input (force from your arms and hands). Without factoring in that your own shoulders, elbows and wrists are levers within themselves, a wash wedge stick may cause extra and unnecessary "grinding" of the paint increasing the odds of inducing swirls. 
 
On the other hand it will indeed save you bending to wash the lower parts of doors and rocker panels, I get that completely, but if you're like me, that's the last place I want swirls and scratches as I don't wan't to have to lay down on the floor later on wrestling a Flex Polisher to get them out.

Bigger is better, except when it isn’t. When it comes to horsepower, bench press numbers, and the size of the fish you just landed a bigger number is better. However, when it comes to cholesterol numbers or the amount of fuel your car burns to get down the road, many of us would agree that less is more.    The detailing world has been fighting the misconception "that bigger is better" for quite some time. Too thick a coat or too many coats of wax makes it hard to wipe off. Its a mistake that many a rookie has made at one point or another. Too much soap and you'll have a hard time rinsing a vehicle clean. But what about the tools we use? Little thought is given to what is "too much". We regularly vocalize our desire for more power, grunting like Tim Allen describing tools, but is it possible that too much power is a bad thing?    UNDERSTANDING WHAT THE WATTS MEAN It is important for consumers to be educated on what watts really mean to them. I'm not for a second suggesting we all become experts in electrical engineering, but a general level of understanding helps us all be better 'shoppers'. Not everyone is capable of building a car from scratch, but I think we can all agree that having an understanding of what MPG, horsepower, and torque numbers mean in terms of performance make you better equipped to buy the right car. 
  Power tools take energy from the grid (input) and tun it into torque (output). Yet, in the US tools are rated by the power they have the potential to consume (watts) and not by the work they actually do. Savvy marketers from around the industry have recognized the bigger is better mentality and combined with a lack of consumer education leverage it to present products as better purely based on statistics of power consumption. So it is key to understand that watts is not a measurement of work done by the tool (output). Watts is a measurement of consumption (input), like how a human body consumes calories or a car consumes fuel. Judging a tool's potential on higher watts alone is no different than deeming a car superior for using more fuel or saying a meal is better because it has more fat.   Simply put - increased watts does not directly translate to increased performance and certainly not in a linear way. While increased output can (and typically does) result from increased input, there are other factors to consider such as the byproducts of the increased consumption and what happens to the excess power that isn't being delivered to the surface.     
 
 
  EFFICIENCY MATTERS Staying with our analogy of a car with worse MPG, let's also consider that your large increase in fuel consumption only netted a small amount of additional horsepower; the idea seems even crazier now right? Stuffing more fuel into the input side for a small net gain on the output side is a demonstration of how inefficient that particular car is. 
  But what happens to all that additional 'input'? Energy will manifest itself in a few ways, it cannot magically disappear or be purely absorbed, so we have to define (for polishing tools) where the excess energy goes:  Mechanical Movement - this is the desired result of the input conversion. Orbits, rotations, etc... ultimately we want to take as much of the input and create mechanical movement. Any other input that isn't converted to this output would be considered waste. The challenge is that in an orbital tool you are working with an unbalanced (eccentric) movement that wants to waste some of that energy by design. To create an efficient random orbital polisher that minimizes wasted energy takes some very precise and clever engineering.  Heat - the most common way for excess input to manifest itself. Heating of the housing, heating of the internals, heating of the plate, potentially heating of the pad and ultimately the working surface. Heat is considered an undesirable byproduct and experienced detailers, especially those that work in less controlled or mobile environments know all too well how unpredictably compounds can perform when undesired heat is introduced.  Vibration - by virtue of its design an orbital tool is not balanced, even more so when discussing large orbit tools. Fortunately, no one runs a polisher for its intended purpose without a pad, but when a pad doesn't offset enough of the excess energy or the energy is more than the counterbalance can effectively offset the result is increased/excess vibration. No one likes the feeling of having their joints rattled loose by a tool vibrating in their hands, and this undesired byproduct has implications in the health of the operator as well as (to a degree) the quality of the finished product.  Noise - an often unconsidered factor in this arena, the audible noise the tool produces as it operates is itself a form of energy consumption. Gears lashing together, motor rotation being generated then translated through the gearbox, the translation of that movement to an eccentric movement, it all creates sound, and the the creation of sound is a form of energy consumption. A quiet tool is often times the sign of an efficient tool. While we should all probably be working with hearing protection when polishing the reduction of noise at its source is ideal.  
  THE EVOLUTION OF THE LARGE ORBIT MARKET, FROM THE COMPANY THAT CREATED IT Thus far the materials published about the upcoming Mark II Bigfoot polishers have included a specific reference: "30% more power". How each person chooses to translate that greatly changes what the message is. As we've been discussing - if it were 30% more input power what we would really be concerned with would be the net result to output, if any?
  Ultimately, what we are concerned with is output to the working surface. We as objective detailers shouldn’t let the red herring of “input” enter into our minds unless we are calculating how much our energy bill is going to increase. If two tools produce similar results, then the tool that is using less energy is more efficient. A properly balanced, highly tuned polisher will deliver better results without all the undesired byproducts of a tool that requires too much energy in an effort to mask an inefficient design.     
 
  With nearly two years of careful development to improve an already revolutionary design, RUPES has managed a extraordinary feat. The BigFoot Mark II polisher will deliver at least 30% more power to the surface without increasing consumption. This means better performance at the working surface with the same 500 watt input rating. It also means there is no increase in heat, no increase in vibration, and not even an increase in your energy bill - if that is an area of concern for you.
 
  BUT HOW? WITCHCRAFT? VOODOO? ALIEN TECHNOLOGY? The Mark II accomplishes this increased output without increased consumption through a redesigned, custom in-house-built motor, improved electronic controls, and careful internal redesigns. It took nearly as long to improve BigFoot as it did to create the original design. The benefit of being an engineering firm and tool manufacturer opens the door to amazing possibilities. Add a little fabled Italian passione and you get Mark II. 
  Revisiting our car analogy one last time:    "The latest model generates 30% more horsepower than the previous model did, and does so without any increased fuel consumption!"   That sounds like a winning proposition and the car I'd want to buy.
 
    *this article is a collaborative effort of Dylan von Kleist, Todd Helme, and Jason Rose of RUPES.

It sounds like you've almost made up your mind.
 
When shopping for new tools assess your needs vs. want. If you can get away with the one polisher, great! 
 
If you have the funds then go for broke.
 
I personally have the Cyclo, Rupes 21 & 15, Flex 3401, PC and a Duetto. Severe overkill but I have a detailing business and having multiple machines is needed on certain jobs and it is nice to have backup in case one fails mid-job.
 
Having said this the 15 & 21 are my go-to machines and can complete 80-90% of work across the vehicles I've done. The are great machines.

No issues here either! All good!

Are you buying based on spec sheets alone?
 
I recommend that you try both (maybe some detailing buddies have one of each) and see which suits you the best. At the end of the day no matter which you choose it is going to be your go to tool and many hours in your hands.
 
Personally when I'm shopping for a new polisher I look at 3 things, build quality, power to pad ratio and user comfort.

Maybe in the interim invest in a small steam cleaner for odor elimination. This way you can use steam to kill bacteria which causes many odors and rejuvenate the fabric in seats and/or carpets. This will save you a ton in chemicals in the long run.
 
Regarding sealing the fabric, there may or may not be something in development as Dan said

As for the coating, John hit on very good points. It's pretty much been on hold for several months as we fine-tune some of our other product that we will be launching or reformulating this year. Yes, a coating would be awesome for most of the hardcore detailers here on this forum (myself included), but from an overall big picture customer perspective and market, especially for beginner customers, we want the simplest, easiest, and most effective processes and products that "just work", exactly like John stated, and coatings don't really fit into those categories just yet.
 
We've toyed with the idea of a professional line of products, and coatings are something that would fit with it perfectly.

As far as I know, the Rinse and Soap Bucket labels will be sticking around, but I will have to find out about the Detail Kit label.
 
Edit: And I'm sure some forum members have started to catch on by now that we sometimes have a sale when new products are launched, so keep your eyes peeled

Some of you may have already noticed a few new products on the website this evening. We're introducing a New Car Wash Bucket label design with the new Adam's "A" logo!
 

 
Same great 5-gallon bucket with the gamma-seal water tight lid and Grit Guard insert, but now with the new modern logo design.
 
Click Here to Shop New Products Now!
 
Plus, if you're just looking to pick up the sticker to add to the back of your current Rinse or Wash Bucket, or to just hang up somewhere in the garage, we have the 8" sticker available for $4.99 before discounts: http://adamspolishes.com/adam-s-polishes-8-label.html

 
Thanks for looking, and let us know what you think!

So people actually listen to those podcasts  
 
You are correct - the ES (current) tools will continue to be offered and supported, not everyone wants/needs the additional torque of the Mark II, but now theres an option for those that do. 
 
If it wasn't obvious in the video I'm over the moon excited about the Nano. Its a tool that solves so many problems for professionals and skilled enthusiasts that I have a feeling it will be a very very very hot commodity when it hits the market. I've been using the tester we have here like crazy. 
 
 
 
The nano really doesn't step on the Mini at all... they'll both have their sweet spots.
 
 
 
Bingo! This is similar to the analogy I've been giving people when it comes to "what one should I buy when they're available" type questions. 
 
Speaking in real applications I found a specific area the long neck was unusable, but the short was perfect: Correcting a deeply recessed gauge cluster on a car. The long neck had too much length to get into the space without the tool body hitting the surrounding surfaces. The short gave just enough clearance that I could polish the lens in place, in the car, and not have to struggle. 

THIS JUST IN:  Rupes-Cyclo has agreed to giveaway a polisher of choice, to the winner of a drawing to be held at noon at the clinic.   To be drawn by the lovely Kourtney, business cards dropped in the jar....
 
Rupes 21?  Cyclo Model 5?  Rupes 15?  What's on your list?  Adam's will donate the pads and polishes to the winner, for a full package!
 
Thank you Cody, and thanks to everyone at Rupes-Cyclo for this incredible giveaway!!

There will be a few very special guests coming to our fall clinic......  Ladies and Gentlemen, Jason Rose and Dylan Von Kleist!!   That's right.....it's an all-star cast of paint correction coming out to the show, and we are thrilled to have the opportunity to learn some perfecting techniques from the best of the best.
 
We all know and have massive respect for Dylan's incredible attention to detail, and technique.  He helped us develop many of our top products, and left an incredibly positive legacy here at Adam's.
 
Jason Rose is one of the most celebrated detailing instructors of all time, and one who has probably educated more shine fanatics than anyone in the industry!  It's an honor to have Jason Rose, formerly the Global Technical Services and Training Manager of Meguiar's.  Jason recently joined the Rupes-Cyclo family, and moved to our home town of Louisville, Colorado!
 
You will also get the chance to meet a few of our newest recruits in person, Kourtney Oglesbee and Dan Tyger.    
 
I can't wait for this opportunity to learn, and there will be two main segments:  
Safe Washing & Winter Preparation Paint Correction The event starts at 10AM, and is scheduled to end at 1PM.   As always, we serve coffee, water, and breakfast/ lunch snacks. 
 
FREE NEW PRODUCT SAMPLES TO ALL WHO ATTEND!!
 
See you soon, and if you are feeling like a road trip, stay in Louisville, CO, 80027 at the Hampton Inn or the Hilton Garden Inn.  Both are less than 3 miles from our HQ.
 
See you soon!

Hi guys
 
New to the forum and only recently been using Adam's products since purchasing my new SRT
 
Live on the West Coast of Australia, in the city of Perth
 
I work away in construction, so only get to play with my SRT and products every 4 weeks
 
Enzo.

Roll up folks! Scientists have found water on Mars.
 
We are planning a mission to establish the very first detailing base on the red planet. Detailing experience with Adams Polishes is necessary.
 
Forget your Bugatti Veyron's and Pagani's, now is your chance to work on true multi billion dollar vehicles!
 
The USA led mission uses the best technology and needs the best products that are made in the USA to keep that red dust at bay.
 
Launch scheduled October 21st, 2023. 
 

 
 

Definitely no longer than two weeks for me! during warm seasons sometimes every 4-5 days.....
During the winter 2 weeks max. Can't stand my car being dirty.

 

Roll up folks! Scientists have found water on Mars.
 
We are planning a mission to establish the very first detailing base on the red planet. Detailing experience with Adams Polishes is necessary.
 
Forget your Bugatti Veyron's and Pagani's, now is your chance to work on true multi billion dollar vehicles!
 
The USA led mission uses the best technology and needs the best products that are made in the USA to keep that red dust at bay.
 
Launch scheduled October 21st, 2023. 
 

 
 

Roll up folks! Scientists have found water on Mars.
 
We are planning a mission to establish the very first detailing base on the red planet. Detailing experience with Adams Polishes is necessary.
 
Forget your Bugatti Veyron's and Pagani's, now is your chance to work on true multi billion dollar vehicles!
 
The USA led mission uses the best technology and needs the best products that are made in the USA to keep that red dust at bay.
 
Launch scheduled October 21st, 2023. 
 

 
 

Like the creativity there, Joseph.  I would go, if I knew I could come back.  Not sure if I would want to detail my vehicles with what they are referring to as water.  It is salty water that is toxic to humans.  Average temperature is a balmy -80 degrees fahrenheit.  And temperature can swing a 100 degrees in a day.  The water is more of a seep.  
 
NASA has plans to send humans that will orbit the planet in the early 2030's.  And then land on the planet in the late 2030's.  It takes 150 to 300 days to reach the planet.  It sounds as though every 2 years the orbits of earth and mars are at their closest point.  Crazy to think how they can hit something so far out and be spot on.  
 
Interested on how much the rover itself cost.  I know the program cost 2.5 billion.  That includes payroll for 4,000 people that worked on the program over the course of 10 years.  As well as all the research and development.  Crazy to think that an iPhone 4s has more computing power than Curiosity rover.  The rover didn't discover the water, it was an orbiting satellite (MRO) that did.  There are different levels of sterilization that is done to things that NASA sends into space to prevent cross contamination.  The rovers weren't sterilized to this higher level.

Roll up folks! Scientists have found water on Mars.
 
We are planning a mission to establish the very first detailing base on the red planet. Detailing experience with Adams Polishes is necessary.
 
Forget your Bugatti Veyron's and Pagani's, now is your chance to work on true multi billion dollar vehicles!
 
The USA led mission uses the best technology and needs the best products that are made in the USA to keep that red dust at bay.
 
Launch scheduled October 21st, 2023. 
 

 
 

Roll up folks! Scientists have found water on Mars.
 
We are planning a mission to establish the very first detailing base on the red planet. Detailing experience with Adams Polishes is necessary.
 
Forget your Bugatti Veyron's and Pagani's, now is your chance to work on true multi billion dollar vehicles!
 
The USA led mission uses the best technology and needs the best products that are made in the USA to keep that red dust at bay.
 
Launch scheduled October 21st, 2023. 
 

 
 

Roll up folks! Scientists have found water on Mars.
 
We are planning a mission to establish the very first detailing base on the red planet. Detailing experience with Adams Polishes is necessary.
 
Forget your Bugatti Veyron's and Pagani's, now is your chance to work on true multi billion dollar vehicles!
 
The USA led mission uses the best technology and needs the best products that are made in the USA to keep that red dust at bay.
 
Launch scheduled October 21st, 2023.