AudiOx Posted September 16, 2011 Share Posted September 16, 2011 There's a product by Aquartz called Ironcut: "........During the use of your vehicle, brake dust and road grime become sintered to the surface of the car paint, rims and wheels due to the high temperature conditions they are normally exposed. Brake dust contains high levels of iron and once sintered to the rim, becomes extremely difficult to dissolve or remove without the use of harsh chemicals. Iron Cut opens up the paint's pores to release ferrous particles and to neutralize caustic compounds that have developed in the paint's subsurface. Ongoing damage is immediately stopped and future damage is prevented by removing the ferrous particles. Iron Cut sprays on as a thick, transparent, as the cleansing liquid begins to work into the dirt and grime, the formula begins to turn purple/ red. The purple/red coloration is the Iron Cut Cleaner forming a bond to the sintered iron on the car paint and wheel and changing its state to a water soluble complex for easy removal. Stubborn, baked on grime may take a small amount of agitation. Rinse car paint and wheels thoroughly with a power washer and wipe dry." So..... Is it just snake Oil? Any value to it? Most importantly, if it is valuable, is Adam's developing a competing product? I'm just curious as I found it on an Adam's dealer website (detailersdomain) and I've seen several detailing writeups where the product is used. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kustom_FX Posted September 16, 2011 Share Posted September 16, 2011 It works.. but its VERY caustic that's why the warning about leaving it to dry. Its more beneficial I think for people like me who live in climates where they salt / brine the roads. I have a white vehicle and the rail dust spots are KILLER on it every spring. I can clay it off, but it takes 3-5 times longer and is just insane. Stuff works great, and cuts my clay down to normal time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AudiOx Posted September 16, 2011 Author Share Posted September 16, 2011 It works.. but its VERY caustic that's why the warning about leaving it to dry. Its more beneficial I think for people like me who live in climates where they salt / brine the roads. I have a white vehicle and the rail dust spots are KILLER on it every spring. I can clay it off, but it takes 3-5 times longer and is just insane. Stuff works great, and cuts my clay down to normal time. My car 'grew up' in NJ and NY for the first 74kmiles, and now has only been down south for a few months. Of course being a dark color, it may be unnecessary anyway, but for us retentive perfectionists...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kustom_FX Posted September 16, 2011 Share Posted September 16, 2011 Honestly if you cant see the spots, then its a waste of time & money on your part imo. Like I said my SS is white, now the wifes blacks 6s will never see it used on it. Again just what I see it as and how I use it. I will post up some pics next time I give it a go as I need to do a pre winter prep next weekend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rwright Posted October 12, 2011 Share Posted October 12, 2011 I believe Iron Cut or whatever the AQuartz company calls it is the rip off to Iron X developed by Avi. He started the business and products and the Korean company copied him and he has been fighting to clean it up since. Iron Cut may be caustic but Iron X is pH neutral. If Adam's does develop a similar product, I hope it works just as well as Iron X. Also, if Adam's develops a wheel cleaner that is similar Iron X or Sonax Full Effect, then I hope it works better than Griot's HD Wheel Cleaner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
07RS4 Posted October 13, 2011 Share Posted October 13, 2011 I believe Iron Cut or whatever the AQuartz company calls it is the rip off to Iron X developed by Avi. He started the business and products and the Korean company copied him and he has been fighting to clean it up since. Iron Cut may be caustic but Iron X is pH neutral. If Adam's does develop a similar product, I hope it works just as well as Iron X. Also, if Adam's develops a wheel cleaner that is similar Iron X or Sonax Full Effect, then I hope it works better than Griot's HD Wheel Cleaner. I use Iron Cut all the time, and have 2 bottles hanging from my cart now. It's PH neutral. After I used it the first time after claying....there was still plenty of contaminants left because the side of the car was purple. Is it necessary? IDK but I don't care, it makes me feel better. My car is white. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crime2 Posted November 22, 2011 Share Posted November 22, 2011 I also use Iron Cut all of the time and would love to see Adams come out with their own! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GlossAngeles Posted January 14, 2012 Share Posted January 14, 2012 Iron cut is best on white cars just because they benefit the most from it....oh and it smells TERRIBLE if Adams made one they should make it smell as good as their other products Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crime2 Posted January 20, 2012 Share Posted January 20, 2012 Bump hoping that Adam will see this and maybe comment or add to the customer wish list. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk. If is spelllled wrong deal with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Ryan Posted January 20, 2012 Share Posted January 20, 2012 I think the problem here is - its mostly not necessary since a clay bar does the same thing. Only the clay bar will pick up all the contaminates in the paint that aren't metallic. Iron cut, sonax wheel cleaner, wolfs deironizer all work by breaking down metallics from brakes and rail dust. But they don't remove the dirt, sap, over spray ect. That being said - they are cool products to use, it's amazing to watch the car change colors.. But in reality you still have to clay it anyways to get all the contaminates out of the paint so this product is essentially unnecessary 'extra step' and quite frankly is a waste of money in my opinion. I tried iron x on my company vehicle.. While it looked like it removed 5 years of crap, I still had to clay it. Again, it's my belief it's not a 'need' for the Adams line. When a clay bar does the same thing and more, why use a product that does less? Function > Coolness Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crime2 Posted January 20, 2012 Share Posted January 20, 2012 You are correct that you still need to clay but it sure does help making claying easer IMO. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk. If is spelllled wrong deal with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MichiganSRT8 Posted January 20, 2012 Share Posted January 20, 2012 ive used it too, feel like its another step as well. if you give a thorough wash with proper technique and do everything right it isnt completely necessary. Unless you have an insanely thrashed vehicle, rental car or derby car hah Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ice Sterling#15 Posted February 7, 2012 Share Posted February 7, 2012 Im intrested in trying the Iron X, but I´m in Iceland and cant find it here. But I will be in the States in two weeks, so could you tell me where to buy it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marylander Posted February 7, 2012 Share Posted February 7, 2012 Im interested in what this stuff can do, too. Below is a pic of my car... it's an 85 MR2, and the spots are on the hood. It seems like they're under the clear. You can't feel them and going after them with a PC has zero effect. I also tried wet sanding with 2000 grit; no change. You look under the hood to see if there's any rust or imperfection below and see no signs of trouble. So, can this Iron Cut stuff get in there and help? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Team Adam's Posted February 7, 2012 Share Posted February 7, 2012 After seeing this in person in PA Rich, I'd say no... this is a product more for iron on the surface, won't do a thing to what you have, which appears to be under the surface somehow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3PedalMINI Posted February 8, 2012 Share Posted February 8, 2012 Cough Cough, MAKE A PRODUCT like this/ sonax full effect i used iron cut on the mini (which is black and lives in the garage) and it i sure had a decent amount of contamination. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marylander Posted February 8, 2012 Share Posted February 8, 2012 After seeing this in person in PA Rich, I'd say no... this is a product more for iron on the surface, won't do a thing to what you have, which appears to be under the surface somehow. Darn, not the answer I was hoping for. But thanks for the reply. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MichiganSRT8 Posted February 8, 2012 Share Posted February 8, 2012 Cough Cough, MAKE A PRODUCT like this/ sonax full effect i used iron cut on the mini (which is black and lives in the garage) and it i sure had a decent amount of contamination. Would be nice in a perfect world indeed. idk ive used iron cut when my friend and i were working at the same time and i dont think it cut enough time off for me to make it worth it every time. That said I'm sure there is a time and place for it, also green wheel cleaner and sonax have put up a good fight with on another, i always like a nice competition against the two and it was hard to tell the difference. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CTSV Posted February 8, 2012 Share Posted February 8, 2012 I think the problem here is - its mostly not necessary since a clay bar does the same thing. The real use for this stuff is on rims and other inaccessible locations. Otherwise, yes, it's a bit redundant, but then so is most of everything in the detailing world. Can Adams as a brand survive without a similar product? I would bet so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3PedalMINI Posted February 8, 2012 Share Posted February 8, 2012 Would be nice in a perfect world indeed. idk ive used iron cut when my friend and i were working at the same time and i dont think it cut enough time off for me to make it worth it every time. That said I'm sure there is a time and place for it, also green wheel cleaner and sonax have put up a good fight with on another, i always like a nice competition against the two and it was hard to tell the difference. You obviously dont have an Audi/BMW to deal with on a weekly basis:jester: The brake dust is INSANE, i use GWC on the Mini mostly because shes a garage queen and the rims are nice and sealed. My Dads Audi is a daily driver and gets washed on a weakly basis, by the time Saturday rolls around the dust is dam near caked on. It takes me one application of sonax very MINOR agitation and a pressure washer and the wheels are as good as new. My moms Yukon and my workvan get an application of All Purpose cleaner as i found the brake dust on those two arnt as "irony" and sonax does little to anything to aid in the removal. GWC seems a tad weak for Nissan/Yukon dust but APC works very well on those. Anyway, I digress. Ive read on alot of different forums sonax can be used in place of iron cut and visa versa but i dont trust it. Who knows, i do know that after an application of Iron cut my clay doesnt feel "as gritty" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MichiganSRT8 Posted February 8, 2012 Share Posted February 8, 2012 You obviously dont have an Audi/BMW to deal with on a weekly basis:jester: The brake dust is INSANE, i use GWC on the Mini mostly because shes a garage queen and the rims are nice and sealed. My Dads Audi is a daily driver and gets washed on a weakly basis, by the time Saturday rolls around the dust is dam near caked on. It takes me one application of sonax very MINOR agitation and a pressure washer and the wheels are as good as new. My moms Yukon and my workvan get an application of All Purpose cleaner as i found the brake dust on those two arnt as "irony" and sonax does little to anything to aid in the removal. GWC seems a tad weak for Nissan/Yukon dust but APC works very well on those. Anyway, I digress. Ive read on alot of different forums sonax can be used in place of iron cut and visa versa but i dont trust it. Who knows, i do know that after an application of Iron cut my clay doesnt feel "as gritty" Your right I have a jeep srt8, that I fitted CTS-V pads on with my brembos not very much dust at all so i cannot share your unfortunate situation haha. I would like to have a product like that from Adams though, much rather pay more to have it here than go for another product not from the US, no doubt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mc2hill Posted February 8, 2012 Share Posted February 8, 2012 Im intrested in trying the Iron X, but I´m in Iceland and cant find it here. But I will be in the States in two weeks, so could you tell me where to buy it? What part of the country will you be in Hilmar? Maybe you could order it online and have it delivered to where you will be staying? Adam's dealer Phil at Detailer's Domain (http://www.detailersdomain.com/) carries some iron-remover products. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3PedalMINI Posted February 8, 2012 Share Posted February 8, 2012 Your right I have a jeep srt8, that I fitted CTS-V pads on with my brembos not very much dust at all so i cannot share your unfortunate situation haha. I would like to have a product like that from Adams though, much rather pay more to have it here than go for another product not from the US, no doubt. Your right, it is quite the unfortunate situation im in Im 99% sure ill be dumping the mini for either a new f32 BMW 335Ix with an M3 eater chip the day BMW releases it. Now that is going to be a really unfortunate situation come wash day I agree, There are enough of us non American (cars) petrol heads :uk: on here that im sure would welcome a Sonax/Iron cut from ADAM's. Perhaps They should do a research vote? I would rather purchase it from you guys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ice Sterling#15 Posted February 15, 2012 Share Posted February 15, 2012 What part of the country will you be in Hilmar? Maybe you could order it online and have it delivered to where you will be staying? Adam's dealer Phil at Detailer's Domain (http://www.detailersdomain.com/) carries some iron-remover products. I will be in Las Vegas Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
07RS4 Posted February 15, 2012 Share Posted February 15, 2012 Your right, it is quite the unfortunate situation im in Im 99% sure ill be dumping the mini for either a new f32 BMW 335Ix with an M3 eater chip the day BMW releases it. Now that is going to be a really unfortunate situation come wash day I agree, There are enough of us non American (cars) petrol heads :uk: on here that im sure would welcome a Sonax/Iron cut from ADAM's. Perhaps They should do a research vote? I would rather purchase it from you guys. I had to unlike your post once I saw that you where getting a BMW:lolsmack: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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