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3 minutes ago, dirtymarcus said:

Interesting, I had no idea ceramic coat needed to be topped.  Guess I know what I will buy on my next order since I already bought ceramic spray.

The ceramic spray is somewhat of a different ball game.  The boost isn't 100% necessary for it, but you can definitely use it on the ceramic spray and get benefits from that.  

4 hours ago, zw470 said:

 

If the "topper" is what prevents the water spots, what's the point of the ceramic coating in the first place?

Let's use Adam's ceramic paint coating for example.  When it says cure for 24 hours, that's just when it's safe to use the vehicle.  Depending on climate and many other variables, the coating is actually still curing up to a week later.  What allows it to be okay at this point is the silica sealant.   It is also what keeps the water spots from happening during this time.  

I personally don't care for Adam's ceramic boost, but I do use another brand's version about once a month on my personal vehicles and never have a water spot issue.  

Usually after the coating cures, it needs to be topped with a sealant, like ceramic boost for example.  The ceramic boost would prevent these spots from happening.  I'm assuming maybe this wasn't done in this case? 

If these spots are etched into the coating you'll need to try a mineral deposit remover or worse case scenario, polish them out and re-apply coating in those areas.  

So I finally applied the tire armor a few weeks ago. I did 3 coats per tire. Didn’t use much product at all. The tires have been through a few rain storms and are still going strong. When I washed the vehicle, I used nothing but a brush and a shampoo and the tires were flawless again.  

I was very skeptical about this product in the beginning, but I am happy that I gave it a try   

Just tried the ceramic spray coating spray on my Wife’s Terrain. Very impressed so far. I coated all of the windows and wheels. Application was very easy and wiping away the residue was effortless. Now to see how it does in the rain and see if it’s as durable as Adam’s claims it to be.  

Customer service isn’t anything like it used to be at Adam’s. I used to be 110% committed to Adam’s, but this is one of the few reasons why I am no longer that way. 

I had a similar issue a while back.  Dan at Adam's sent me a whole new thing of glass boost free of charge.  

You should be good to go in another bottle.  The coating prep is in a regular bottle and sprayer and it's just fine and the coating prep is basically just alcohol.  

A leather smelling odor eliminator can be had from a certain chemical company. Smells identical to Adam’s leather conditioner. 

11 hours ago, zw470 said:

I wonder if they're still working on the car shampoo that was specifically for coated cars  

If you don’t want to wait, it’s already been done by several other companies. 

1 hour ago, dirtymarcus said:

Well, there goes my free million dollar idea lol.

lol

I have it and love it  

Something similar to that has already been done by another company. But because of the rules of the forum, I cannot post who. 

32 minutes ago, camaro2ssblack said:

 

That’s the idea.  Unfortunately the real world results are not matching up.  

 

Like I said, I’m confident they will release an improved version after getting feedback, I’ve seen it time and time again over the years with their products (recently with H2O Guard & Gloss and Ceramic Boost).

Their competition’s version of tire armor works better in achieving gloss on the 2nd coat in my experience . And the competion also has a 32 ounce version available. 

Yes the formula changed last year. 

You can interchange iron remover and wheel cleaner to do the same job. They both have the same chemical. Only difference being wheel cleaner is thicker than the iron remover. 

But to answer your question, yes. Just buy one, no need for both unless you just want to blow the money. 

8 hours ago, Adam Tarbox said:

I saw that, perhaps I failed to clarify my question. When it  one to over function and cleaning, is one better than the other, minus of course the lack iron remover? 

If your wheels are absolutely trashed, then go wheel cleaner. If your vehicle usually generates a lot of brake dust, then go wheel cleaner. Eco wheel cleaner is good for light duty jobs. 

In my experience, I don’t see the need for eco wheel cleaner. Mainly because, just regular car shampoo and water  gets the same job done. 

No, you didn’t loose any of your paint protection. 

On 12/8/2018 at 5:51 AM, RayS said:

While I agree it is more expensive than a product you can get in a Big Box store, you also have to consider the longevity of the product.  I also fully recognize the different price model between a consumer product that I'm using for myself and something a professional would use on a client's vehicle that is only there once in a while.

 

From a consumer or personal use standpoint, if the product lives up to the product details, it will actually cost less if it meets the 1 month longevity as advertised.

 

Based the cost of Product M from the big box store and Product A after the normal 15% discount and knowing that I get 6 vehicles from Product M per bottle and I suspect Product A will be about the same. 

 

Here are my calculations:  

M: $8 @ 6 vehicles = $1.33 per vehicle per use
A: $12 @ 6 vehicles = $2.00 per vehicle per use

 

Product M, lasts 2 weeks
Product A, lasts 4 weeks

 

Product M has to be redone 26 times
Product A has to be redone 13 times

 

M: 26 @ $1.33 = $34.58
A: 13 @ $2.00 = $26.00

 

Now, it is a question of using it and finding out how the longevity is and how the vehicle looks to make a final decision on the actual value.  I ordered one bottle and will be putting it on the wife's car today and then the trial time starts.   By no means,  am I saying that I prefer the higher purchase cost, it would be great if the price was the same as Product M and longer lasting. If Product M were to last 4 weeks instead of 2, then we'd have a different financial pattern.  Also, I have no complaints about how the vehicle looks or ease of use when using Product M, so that is not part of my evaluation process.

I can get a gallon of spray wax from a competitor for $26 a gallon. It has great results and longevity. I’m not paying $60 for a gallon of spray wax. Seems a little crazy to me. I love Adam’s, but they were way behind the industry on this product. And on top of that, the crazy price. 😕

You should be good to go with Adam’s rinseless and waterless washes. 

I’ve tried ceramic boost on carpro cquartz uk and it did not do as well as reload. And in my experience the opposite is true as well. Ceramic boost does better on an Adam’s coating than reload does. 

The only thing keeping me from trying it, is how expensive it is. 

37 minutes ago, cwp2016nd said:

I do like Pan's channel. I just wish he was a little more "real world" with some of his videos. 

 

I never hear him say he doesn't like certain products. I never hear him give a "con" to any product either or even compare two of them and say likes and dislikes of either. There's no way he has only good things to say about all of the products he tests and shows. Just my opinion 

Pan claims that we will never see him do a video on a product he doesn't like.  Only because he finds it as a waste of time and doesn't want to bash any companies.  

He also does some comparisons in his detailing awards videos.  But I totally agree with you, he should definitely do more comparison videos.  

In my opinion, Pan has the best detailing channel on YouTube. So I was very excited to see this 😁

You are correct, the towel seems to be gone.  I know posting about Adam's competitors is against the rules here, however since they no longer seem to sell this item, maybe it's fair game.  If not, mods please delete this post.  But the same towel can be had from The Rag Company.  They call it the Everest 1100.