tmevilsizor Posted October 14, 2016 Share Posted October 14, 2016 I started a topic about Adam's Coating and the possibility of this happening. My thread was deleted. How does this happen?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dwhite0960 Posted October 14, 2016 Share Posted October 14, 2016 Something could have been said in the thread that was considered not appropriate for the adams forum. Not saying it was you but possibly a reply from another person. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wely324 Posted October 14, 2016 Share Posted October 14, 2016 This might get deleted too, when Adam's Polishes is the one who funds this forum they can do what they want. Coatings have been discussed before and it is highly unlikely they will release one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tmevilsizor Posted October 14, 2016 Author Share Posted October 14, 2016 Ok. I just didn't know why it would've been deleted. Nothing inappropriate was said. The post received very good feedback. Maybe it was deleted because they won't release a coating? I'm just not 100% on the rules here. Just curious. Thanks for the input guys! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan@Adams Posted October 14, 2016 Share Posted October 14, 2016 The thread was deleted because some people began speculating on products and claiming things as fact. We are constantly evaluating and testing all sorts of products, both prototypes and competitor products, but that does not confirm if we will release a product of this type. blcksilv08, Rich, Antv20 and 3 others 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tmevilsizor Posted October 14, 2016 Author Share Posted October 14, 2016 Dan!! Thank you so much for clarifying. I guess since there aren't any facts we will just have to wait and see what will happen in time. Thank you again for clarifying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norton Posted October 16, 2016 Share Posted October 16, 2016 We are constantly evaluating and testing all sorts of products, both prototypes and competitor products, but that does not confirm if we will release a product of this type. Obviously, confirmation is not required but, based on a recent visit to Adam's HQ, this is spot-on accurate. Some pretty neat things under evaluation at the moment. I recommend staying tuned for (potential) upcoming product releases... tmevilsizor 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tmevilsizor Posted October 17, 2016 Author Share Posted October 17, 2016 Obviously, confirmation is not required but, based on a recent visit to Adam's HQ, this is spot-on accurate. Some pretty neat things under evaluation at the moment. I recommend staying tuned for (potential) upcoming product releases... Stop it Steve!! You're getting me excited over here. Lol. I'm always looking forward to new products! Norton 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ls1transam Posted October 17, 2016 Share Posted October 17, 2016 I seen on an IG story today someone was applying what looks to be some type of coating in an Adam's facility... hmmmm tmevilsizor 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tmevilsizor Posted October 21, 2016 Author Share Posted October 21, 2016 I seen on an IG story today someone was applying what looks to be some type of coating in an Adam's facility... hmmmm They have a new product coming out. It looks like a trim sealant and not a paint sealant. Bummer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ls1transam Posted October 21, 2016 Share Posted October 21, 2016 They have a new product coming out. It looks like a trim sealant and not a paint sealant. Bummer. Yea kind of bummed there. However, it could be something for trim and paint. That pic could be misleading a little. tmevilsizor 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SSilver07 Posted October 22, 2016 Share Posted October 22, 2016 I've seen a few of those coating products on facebook. looks like most have to be baked on ? and some have to be sanded off? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PostalTwo Posted October 22, 2016 Share Posted October 22, 2016 I've seen a few of those coating products on facebook. looks like most have to be baked on ? and some have to be sanded off?some have to be baked on . Modesta is one that comes to mind . All of the consumer grade coatings can be removed with a compound . Some of the pro versions need to be sanded off . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shane@detailedreflections Posted October 22, 2016 Share Posted October 22, 2016 I keep toying with the idea of trying a coating on one of my vehicles. I don't really know why I haven't done it yet. Maybe it's that I keep hoping Adam's comes out with one? Or maybe it's just that the processes I know are the ones I'm simply comfortable with? That said, if Adam's came out with it, I'm 99% sure I'd have to try it. tmevilsizor 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tmevilsizor Posted October 25, 2016 Author Share Posted October 25, 2016 Yea kind of bummed there. However, it could be something for trim and paint. That pic could be misleading a little. It's confirmed. It's a ceramic trim coating. I'm excited, but I'm also a little bummed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tmevilsizor Posted October 25, 2016 Author Share Posted October 25, 2016 I've seen a few of those coating products on facebook. looks like most have to be baked on ? and some have to be sanded off? I'm not sure what you mean by "baked on". Most of the professional series don't even require "baking". No heating is ever required. Some people use IR lamps to help cure the coating FASTER than air drying. Maybe this is where you are getting the baking idea from? zw470 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tmevilsizor Posted October 25, 2016 Author Share Posted October 25, 2016 I keep toying with the idea of trying a coating on one of my vehicles. I don't really know why I haven't done it yet. Maybe it's that I keep hoping Adam's comes out with one? Or maybe it's just that the processes I know are the ones I'm simply comfortable with? That said, if Adam's came out with it, I'm 99% sure I'd have to try it. Coating's are a great idea. They protect far longer than a wax/sealant. Most are generally easy to apply/remove. Regardless, most require a little getting used to. Just try it...You'll like it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ls1transam Posted October 25, 2016 Share Posted October 25, 2016 It's only a matter of time till they do a coating for paint too. I wouldn't be surprised if it releases soon to go with the trim coating. I seen an IG story where it looked like someone's was applying a coating to the paint of a 370Z in what looked to be an Adam's facility. I could be wrong though. tmevilsizor 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tmevilsizor Posted October 25, 2016 Author Share Posted October 25, 2016 It's only a matter of time till they do a coating for paint too. I wouldn't be surprised if it releases soon to go with the trim coating. I seen an IG story where it looked like someone's was applying a coating to the paint of a 370Z in what looked to be an Adam's facility. I could be wrong though. I'm Geeked!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wely324 Posted October 25, 2016 Share Posted October 25, 2016 (edited) I'm not sure what you mean by "baked on". Most of the professional series don't even require "baking". No heating is ever required. Some people use IR lamps to help cure the coating FASTER than air drying. Maybe this is where you are getting the baking idea from? Sounds like you do know he meant by "baked on." Whether they require it or not all high end approved detailers that use coatings, which are generally for professionals only, will use infrared heat lamps which bake the coating and make it harder. Baking is a term that many installers use to describe the process. Maybe they are just feeding everyone a bunch of BS, but these are "approved installers." I actually think it would be harder to find a professional who doesn't use IR heat lamps than ones that do. Any coating Adam's offers will probably not be designed to use or require a infrared heat lamp. But coatings that are designed for consumers as well and not just professional use only won't last as long either. edit: professional coatings tend to have thickness that is measurable as well, where consumer grade coatings are very thin and unnoticeable to a paint gauge. Edited October 25, 2016 by wely324 tmevilsizor 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AvsBest Posted October 25, 2016 Share Posted October 25, 2016 One thing is sure: They are actively working on some type of consumer range coating or at the very least an improvement on their paint sealant if they can't get the coating right. Either way, I'm in for a better/long lasting alternative without going into a professional range application. I say that the 2 day cure required on the trim coating is probably as high as they can go as far as "professional" application required. Because of their 110% satisfaction guarantee, they can't bet on how the customer will apply the product. Let's not forget that Adam's is targeting the novice-intermediate detailer out there with super easy to use products. Mariner, Wild2003ss and tmevilsizor 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ls1transam Posted October 25, 2016 Share Posted October 25, 2016 I'm gonna get the trim coating. I'll test it on the trim of my daily. It won't be covered so moisture will get on it. I'll pick a day that isn't giving rain so it will at least have a day to cure before the dew falls. If it looks terrible and spotty I don't care. It's my daily beater. I wonder if the 2 day is a little over exaggerated cure time just to kinda make sure it's fully cured. We'all soon find out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tmevilsizor Posted October 25, 2016 Author Share Posted October 25, 2016 Sounds like you do know he meant by "baked on." Whether they require it or not all high end approved detailers that use coatings, which are generally for professionals only, will use infrared heat lamps which bake the coating and make it harder. Baking is a term that many installers use to describe the process. Maybe they are just feeding everyone a bunch of BS, but these are "approved installers." I actually think it would be harder to find a professional who doesn't use IR heat lamps than ones that do. Any coating Adam's offers will probably not be designed to use or require a infrared heat lamp. But coatings that are designed for consumers as well and not just professional use only won't last as long either. edit: professional coatings tend to have thickness that is measurable as well, where consumer grade coatings are very thin and unnoticeable to a paint gauge. Billy. The reason that professionals use this method is because most require at LEAST 24 hours before you can introduce to moisture or condensation. The IR lamps cure the coating in much quicker time. Personal car can sit inside a garage for the full 24 hours. If the professional is getting paid a few hundred dollars to install, they want to make sure it is fully cured in a few hours instead of naturally air drying. Imagine if you had customers coming back because of a bad install of a coating? All because they allowed the car to sit outside overnight and receive moisture on the surface. The warranty claims would be astronomical. I still think of the term "baked" as referencing heat. The IR lamps do not emit any heat to "bake". It is simply a curing process. I think this is where the confusion comes into play. wely324 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wely324 Posted October 25, 2016 Share Posted October 25, 2016 Billy. The reason that professionals use this method is because most require at LEAST 24 hours before you can introduce to moisture or condensation. The IR lamps cure the coating in much quicker time. Personal car can sit inside a garage for the full 24 hours. If the professional is getting paid a few hundred dollars to install, they want to make sure it is fully cured in a few hours instead of naturally air drying. Imagine if you had customers coming back because of a bad install of a coating? All because they allowed the car to sit outside overnight and receive moisture on the surface. The warranty claims would be astronomical. I still think of the term "baked" as referencing heat. The IR lamps do not emit any heat to "bake". It is simply a curing process. I think this is where the confusion comes into play. Exactly what do you think the infrared lamp is doing then? Maybe research IR lamps first cause the whole process is about transferring energy to another object, which simply put, heats up the coating allowing it to fully cure or cure at a quicker rate. PostalTwo, tmevilsizor and LT1xL82 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tmevilsizor Posted October 26, 2016 Author Share Posted October 26, 2016 Exactly what do you think the infrared lamp is doing then? Maybe research IR lamps first cause the whole process is about transferring energy to another object, which simply put, heats up the coating allowing it to fully cure or cure at a quicker rate. I agree. You are correct. I'm just trying to correct the incorrectness of the term baking. I don't want any Newbs on here to think that "baking" (heating up to high temperature) is correct. IR lamps do transfer energy and help to cure the coating quicker using wavelengths. My question is this... If you put anything in a microwave is the object inside being baked or heated up? It's just incorrect terminology I was trying to correct for newbs. Wolfeman 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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