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I have a new camaro that is 2 years old, it is starting to show swirls. The only thing I do to protect the paint is clay and wax it. My question is if I buy the pc and all the other stuff will I see a noticeable change in the shine of my car? It is so new that I am worried that it already looks to good to benefit from the adams products all though the swirls do show quite a bit in the sun. I plan on buying about 700 dollars worth of stuff so when I start I have it all. Can this shine any better?

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Do a quick search on the foam gun question. There have been numerous threads and discussions about foam guns and what they are for.

 

As for the fire hose nozzle. I am sure it turns off just like any other nozzle of that style, you just twist till its off. The shut off valve allows a user to utilize a quick release to quickly switch from fire hose nozzle to foam gun and back again

 

 

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To go off topic what is the benefits of using a foam gun over a regular nozzle? Also does the adams fire hose nozzle shut off without the shutoff valve that adams also sells?

 

The foam gun has a specific purpose that the regular nozzle doesn't remotely address. The foam gun lays down a soapy layer which lubricates the dirt that is matted to the surface of the car, which assist in making the removal of said dirt as safe as possible. By not doing so, you risk the chance of grinding that dirt into the finish. This is one of the most common wash mistakes made by folks that creates the swirl marks that you see in most cars today. The regular nozzle doesn't do anything but shoot water.

 

Yes, the nozzle does turn off. The purpose of the shut off valve is to turn the water off that is going to the nozzle so that you can switch the nozzle for another device. That way, you don't have to go to the spicket and shut the water off there every time you need to switch something at the end of the hose.

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It is absolutely possible to get a swirl free wash using the two bucket method alone. The foam gun is "nice to have" but not necessary. Again, it is nice to keep on topic so that when searching for info, it will be easily found. This has all been discussed before.

 

 

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It is absolutely possible to get a swirl free wash using the two bucket method alone. The foam gun is "nice to have" but not necessary. Again, it is nice to keep on topic so that when searching for info, it will be easily found. This has all been discussed before.

 

 

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That's your choice. It's not required like, say the Grit Guard, but it can help reduce marring during the wash, especially on black or other dark colors.

 

It is absolutely possible to get a swirl free wash using the two bucket method alone. The foam gun is "nice to have" but not necessary. Again, it is nice to keep on topic so that when searching for info, it will be easily found. This has all been discussed before.

 

 

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I disagree with both of you. With my 2-bucket wash, the foam gun is just as important as any other piece of the 2-bucket wash. If you truly understand what the foam gun does, how can you not see the importance of using one?

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I disagree with both of you. With my 2-bucket wash, the foam gun is just as important as any other piece of the 2-bucket wash. If you truly understand what the foam gun does, how can you not see the importance of using one?

 

Do you use it every time you wash?

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That's your choice. It's not required like, say the Grit Guard, but it can help reduce marring during the wash, especially on black or other dark colors.

 

It is absolutely possible to get a swirl free wash using the two bucket method alone. The foam gun is "nice to have" but not necessary. Again, it is nice to keep on topic so that when searching for info, it will be easily found. This has all been discussed before.

 

 

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I disagree with both of you. With my 2-bucket wash, the foam gun is just as important as any other piece of the 2-bucket wash. If you truly understand what the foam gun does, how can you not see the importance of using one?

 

This (from when Chobbs replied to a similar question):

Craig pretty much covered it.

 

A foam gun makes things faster and easier. You can perform a swirl free wash without one, just using 2 buckets with grit guards and the right technique.

 

Like I often say, its a NICE to have item, but not necessarily a MUST have item.

 

Plus, they're fun... lets not kid ourselves here... its enjoyable to soak your car down with a blast of bubbles, anyone who says otherwise is lying. :2thumbs:

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Short answer yes. You get the shine from polishing...not the wax you apply. If you have swirls, you will benefit from any type of polishing. Your car does look good BTW, but the true test like Junkman always says, is the flash test. It will open your eyes if you've never polished it before.

 

The benefit from Adam's is that it's the best system out there...along with the greatest customer service in the industry.

 

Even if you picked up the car from the dealer this morning, chances are you would benefit from some leveling of polishing. Remember to start out with a small 2 x 2 section and correct that first...starting with FMP.

 

Car looks great BTW!

 

Agree with the statement regarding picking up a new car from the dealership. We just picked up our new black metallic Volvo S60. When looking close, it has swirls. Can't wait to use my new Flex purchased from Adams last month. Your great looking Camaro will look fantastic using the Adams Polishing "System."

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I disagree with both of you. With my 2-bucket wash, the foam gun is just as important as any other piece of the 2-bucket wash. If you truly understand what the foam gun does, how can you not see the importance of using one?

 

So you are saying that in order to have a swirl free wash, you MUST use a foam gun?

 

 

 

 

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So you are saying that in order to have a swirl free wash, you MUST use a foam gun?

 

 

 

 

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I'm saying in order to do a proper 2-bucket wash, you must use a foam gun. If the dirt is not matted to the finish, you may get away without one for that wash. If the dirt is matted to the finish and you don't perform a step equal to a foam gun, you WILL create swirls, period. If you truly understand what the foam gun does, this will make sense to you. Again, it's not rocket science, it's common sense.

 

Why do you think that there are so many swirled up cars out there?

 

Do you use it every time you wash?

 

Every freakin' time without exception.

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I just bought an Adam's Foam Gun from Eric at Thompson Racing (he still had some of the Made in USA guns available) and I've got to say that Dylan is right. It's a blast to shoot foamy bubbles all over the car. That being said, I can see the exact benefit of using a foam gun to prep before wash. For one thing, it helps pre soak the car beyond just rinsing it down with the fire hose nozzle (yes, I bought the fire hose nozzle and the brass shut off valve as a combo and they are also worth it.). Secondly this performs the same basic function that the wash pad does in that it protects the clear coat from the dirt by introducing a layer of shampoo/bubbles. So in my opinion, in the way the 2 bucket wash system helps keep dirt and grit out of your wash pad AND wash bucket, the foam laid down from the foam gun also helps elevate the dirt above the surface of the paint the same way the foam coming out of the wash pad does. I don't know if that makes any sense, but in my mind it's like double the protection in the same way the 2 wash buckets provide double the protection.

 

I know this much, after I finally correct the swirls in my paint, I'm doing every possible thing I can to keep from introducing swirls back into my black finish!!! I will have spent many hours laboring over my PC/Flex correcting it and the last thing I want to do is be the cause of swirls reappearing.

 

One of Junkman's mantras is sloppy & improper technique will cause you a lot of problems!

 

Also, on a side note, I was wondering about the benefit I'd get out of a foam gun at my house because I have rather low water pressure. Not a worry! I couldn't believe how well the foam gun worked as well as the fire hose nozzle. I'd buy them both all over again if I had to!

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I just bought an Adam's Foam Gun from Eric at Thompson Racing (he still had some of the Made in USA guns available) and I've got to say that Dylan is right. It's a blast to shoot foamy bubbles all over the car. That being said, I can see the exact benefit of using a foam gun to prep before wash. For one thing, it helps pre soak the car beyond just rinsing it down with the fire hose nozzle (yes, I bought the fire hose nozzle and the brass shut off valve as a combo and they are also worth it.). Secondly this performs the same basic function that the wash pad does in that it protects the clear coat from the dirt by introducing a layer of shampoo/bubbles. So in my opinion, in the way the 2 bucket wash system helps keep dirt and grit out of your wash pad AND wash bucket, the foam laid down from the foam gun also helps elevate the dirt above the surface of the paint the same way the foam coming out of the wash pad does. I don't know if that makes any sense, but in my mind it's like double the protection in the same way the 2 wash buckets provide double the protection.

 

You kind of lost me on the wash pad part but overall, BINGO. You understand how this works. For someone with a black car, that is imperative. :thumbsup:

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I'm saying in order to do a proper 2-bucket wash, you must use a foam gun. If the dirt is not matted to the finish, you may get away without one for that wash. If the dirt is matted to the finish and you don't perform a step equal to a foam gun, you WILL create swirls, period. If you truly understand what the foam gun does, this will make sense to you. Again, it's not rocket science, it's common sense.

 

This is not a universally held opinion.

 

Common sense by its very definition would mean it is widely known.

 

 

 

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All this foam gun talk makes me wonder how you get a swirl free car using WW? Unless you have a foam cannon, most of the foam is gone on the hose types in like 3 minutes anyway, so there goes your barrier. Also, Adams car shampoo is not an active cleaner. IIRC, that's what Dylan stated. So "pre-soaking" isn't really loosening anything up anyway, is it? OT I know...

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