Guard and Gloss

[arasco3]

If i go into the detail knowing that i will be claying the car, should i still be using H2O Gaurd and Gloss to help dry the car? or should i dry the car without G&G?

[LT1xL82]

Without. The H2) G&G would serve no purpose in this case. Additionally, claying and possible subsequent polishing will pretty much remove the H20 G&G. 

[arasco3]

yes i know i spelled guard wrong

[GST Auto Detail]

I think that'd be up to you.  Are you going to be doing any paint correction after claying?  I see nothing wrong with using G&G.  It provides a really good shine and a level of protection to boot.  After G&G, you could apply Buttery Wax, Americana, Patriot, etc.  I did two vehicles over the weekend where I applied Buttery Wax over G&G and the shine was intense. 

[arasco3]

Thanks for the reply, i use G&G just to aid with drying, not really to add protection and shine. Should i just use detail spray to aid with drying, in my case? 

[Beemer]

I don't ever dry before claying. Just keep the car wet and use plenty of fluid for claying.

 

Of course, I do it in the garage.  If in the sun you might need to dry first....

[arasco3]

Roger, that makes sense but i will usually be drying in the sun and the summer heat in houston does not help much. unless i use deionized water but even then i i cant really clay in 100 degree direct sunlight. I guess i almost have to use garage space

[arasco3]

Nathan, i usually dry the car with G&G, clay and then use the paint sealant with a swirl killer. Like i said i only use the G&G to aid with drying, i leave it to the paint sealant to protect the paint and throw some buttery wax on top of that to enhance the shine a bit. 

 

Should i just start using detail spray to help aid with drying rather than G&G? since a) im using paint sealant again after claying, and the clay could take the G&G off making it pointless

[Dan@Adams]

yes i know i spelled guard wrong

 

Fixed that title for you.

 

If you're going to clay the vehicle, there is no point to use H2O Guard prior to claying. The H2O Guard will be sealing the surface and will make it more difficult to remove the bonded contamination from the clear coat.

 

If you're planning on claying immediately after washing, rinse the vehicle, move it into the garage or shade if possible, then mist Detail Spray onto the wet vehicle and start claying. If you have to work in the hot sun, use a minimal amount of Detail Spray as a drying aid, then clay with more Detail Spray. Dried-on Detail Spray residue is much easier to deal with than dried-on H2O Guard streaks.

[Junior]

Andrew,

 

As others have stated, clay before you add any sealants or wax. So in your case, you could do a full two bucket wash, rinse and mist the car with detail spray. Then go about claying with more detail spray as you go section by section. After all sections are completed, you could either A.) rinse it or B.) wash and rinse once more then dry with H2O. I think Adam had a video where he went through that exact process. Just make sure you check the clay often and fold it once it gets contaminated from a section.

Edited March 28, 2017 by Junior

[Junior]

Take a look at this post with the link to the video I referenced

 

Hope this helps

 

 

http://www.adamsforums.com/topic/29124-how-adams-new-daily-driver-video-can-help-your-detailing-be-profitable/?p=454842

[falcaineer]

Andrew,

As others have stated, clay before you add any sealants or wax. So in your case, you could do a full two bucket wash, rinse and mist the car with detail spray. Then go about claying with more detail spray as you go section by section. After all sections are completed, you could either A.) rinse it or B.) wash and rinse once more then dry with H2O. I think Adam had a video where he went through that exact process. Just make sure you check the clay often and fold it once it gets contaminated from a section.

Here's that video: https://youtu.be/gi6VBddZ2sA

 

Are you doing a full detail? If so, you might consider a strip wash first, then move on to clay, polish, seal, etc.

[Junior]

Andrew you can go to the 10 minute mark on the video to skip the wash portions. Adam is going to say "Rougher than a night in jail" about the paint! Always makes me laugh.

[Chris@Adams]

If i go into the detail knowing that i will be claying the car, should i still be using H2O Gaurd and Gloss to help dry the car? or should i dry the car without G&G?

 

No, I wouldn't if I was going to clay soon........I would use DS.

[falcaineer]

[Rb1274]

All the talk about H2OGG.. did mine today... I filled an old Detail bottle with Distilled water and wet a panel and double soft then proceeded to do a panel at a time... worked perfectly. Lots of shine!!!

Edited March 28, 2017 by Rb1274